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RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

From   "Nick Cox" <>
To   <>
Subject   RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
Date   Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:51:25 +0100

I think there remains a good case for citing user-written programs and

Fisher's most famous book remains quotable for some distinctive


Lachenbruch, Peter

Almost totally agree.  Some packages have specific routines that aren't
available elsewhere.  For some R routines, you may need to do a bit of
searching for the user supplied function - same is true is Stata.  I
would suggest not citing for t-tests, ANOVA, etc. 

Some older folks on the list may recall the time when everyone would
cite Fisher, R. A. "Statistical Methods for Research Workers" with an
appropriate publication date.  Not too useful

Nick Winter

At the risk of provoking flames - can someone articulate the reason 
*for* citing the statistical software used in a book or article, 
especially in the case where only very standard statistical tools are 
used?  We don't, for example, generally cite the word processor, 
citation management software, and other computer tools used in the 
course of our research....

On 6/21/2010 7:16 PM, Neil Shephard wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
> <> wrote:
>> That would be great if people used the standard citations. Some
>> routinely don't mention software used and oddly enough articles in
the R
>> Journal do not cite R, as it's assumed that's what they're about.
>> Someone on the R list found the standard citation misspelled a bunch
>> ways. Maddening!
> Yep, I realise the limitations, but it was another angle that hadn't
> been mentioned.
> Personally I will endeavour to ensure that Stata, R or any other
> software is correctly cited in any papers/work that I'm involved in.

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