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RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

From   "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <>
To   <>
Subject   RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
Date   Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:10:48 -0400

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:owner-
>] On Behalf Of Neil Shephard
>Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:03 AM
>Subject: Re: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
><> wrote:
>> I've been off to Google Scholar and have been quickly reminded why I
>> gave up previously. Here are some search results for SAS constrained
>> only by the year of publication==2009:
>> SAS - 7,510 but most of these are way off base. Not sure why we got
>> different results.
>> "SAS" - 730 These are much better as the quotes eliminate spaces
>> the letters. But included are all the papers on:
>> Sythetic Aperture Sonar
>> Simulating an Automated System
>> Swarm AlgorithS
>> Semi-Active Suspensions
>> San Andreas System
>> Supervisory Attentional Systems
>> Semi-Algebraic Systems...
>> "SAS Institute" - 221, many by people listing SAS Institute as their
>> employer!
>Another way to come at this is to take the title of the citation that
>you are supposed to use when citing R/Stata/SPSS/SAS etc. and plug it
>into Google and see how many times it is reported as being cited.


That would be great if people used the standard citations. Some fields
routinely don't mention software used and oddly enough articles in the R
Journal do not cite R, as it's assumed that's what they're about.
Someone on the R list found the standard citation misspelled a bunch of
ways. Maddening!


>For example the official way of citing R is detailed in the FAQ
>( as being...
>       title        = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical
>                       Computing},
>       author       = {{R Development Core Team}},
>       organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
>       address      = {Vienna, Austria},
>       year         = 2010,
>       note         = {{ISBN} 3-900051-07-0},
>       url          = {}
>     }
>Plug the title into scholar and it tells you the number of times the
>title is cited (see
>).  The problem is that the manual is "published" each year or so, so
>there are multiple versions of the same paper cited at different
>points of time that relate to different versions of R.
>For Stata the official citation is detailed in the FAQ at
> The results are less
>useful in this instance and you have to put double quotes around the
>main string, and because this isn't an actual paper itself that has
>been cited you'd have to look at the number of matched hits, which for
>version 11 is 35 (see
>whilst version 10 returns 633 hits
>I'm sure you can do similar with SAS/SPSS/WinBugs/JAGS/etc.
>"... no scientific worker has a fixed level of significance at which
>from year to year, and in all circumstances, he rejects hypotheses; he
>rather gives his mind to each particular case in the light of his
>evidence and his ideas." - Sir Ronald A. Fisher (1956)
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