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Marcello Pagano <pagano@hsph.harvard.edu> |

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statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu |

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Re: AW: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... |

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Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:06:23 -0400 |

Sounds good to me, with the usual caveats about taking ratios etc... m.p. On 6/20/2010 12:13 PM, Martin Weiss wrote:

<> " Some "subscribers" are actually distributors who forward the messages on the list." True! But could this effect also be there in the case of mailing lists for Stata`s competitors (so that it cancels out for Bob`s purposes)? HTH Martin -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Marcello Pagano Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 18:10 An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... Some "subscribers" are actually distributors who forward the messages on the list. m.p. On 6/20/2010 12:02 PM, Martin Weiss wrote:<> So the digest seems to boast 1,845 subscribers at the moment. HTH Martin -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin Weiss Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 17:57 An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Betreff: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... <> " Do you know where on Statalist it shows the number of subscribers?" Send "who Statalist" in the body of an email to majordomo@hsphsun2.harvard.edu while being a subscriber. The result atthispoint in time is 1,847 for the real thing, the digest should have asimilarnumber. Also note my own research on similar questions at http://www.stata.com/meeting/dcconf09/dc09_weiss.pdf HTH Martin -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 17:45 An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Betreff: RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...If researchers publishing papers with data analysis were required to indicate their package, that would help quite a bit. I searched Google Scholar for Stata, SAS and SPSS, constraining the publication year to 2009, and got 32900, 175000 and 44800.I tried Google Scholar but had a tough time getting consistent results. While "R" is not at all helpful, people are supposed to cite it and I searched for that. But doing it various ways, people were very inconsistent. The more consistent methods drew my time away from that. However, it has been over a year since I tried that method so I should have another go at it.Each software is idiosyncratic: should you give a link to www.sas.com or support.sas.com? should you give a link to www.stata.com or to SSC?I really like this idea. I tried to pick the most dominant link, so each would be shown in the best possible light. That usually turned out to be the main company link while there could be a more specific product link (e.g. SPSS.COM rather than the page for SPSS Statistics, which is one piece of many), but I did not think of looking at the support links. I'll do that& see if it's higher.And since R does not have support in the sense the commercial vendors do, [R-help] is the only source of support, and the number of subscribers to [R-help] should be compared to the sum of the number subscribers to Statalist and the number of people who contacted Stata tech-support@.Thanks for reminding me of this. I did start down this road months ago. Some listservs made total subscribers easy to find. Others didn't. Do you know where on Statalist it shows the number of subscribers? I suspect I'll have a hard time getting the monthly phone call numbers from the vendors, but it can't hurt to ask. Statacorp folks are probably reading this. Any chance of that? Thanks! Bob-- Stas Kolenikov, also found at http://stas.kolenikov.name Small print: I use this email account for mailing lists only. * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/* * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/* * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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**References**:**st: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*"Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@utk.edu>

**Re: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com>

**RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*"Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@utk.edu>

**AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*"Martin Weiss" <martin.weiss1@gmx.de>

**AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*"Martin Weiss" <martin.weiss1@gmx.de>

**Re: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*Marcello Pagano <pagano@hsph.harvard.edu>

**AW: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...***From:*"Martin Weiss" <martin.weiss1@gmx.de>

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