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RE: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...


From   "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@utk.edu>
To   <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   RE: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
Date   Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:26:52 -0400

Thanks for the count on that. I'm sure you're right that re-distributor addresses will be included in most litservs and are likely to be a tiny percent of the total. I toyed with the idea of searching the Internet for the number of times strings like, "statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" appear for each list with the thought that it would actually seek to measure the amount of redistribution, but it didn't turn out to work very well.

Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-
>statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Weiss
>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 12:14 PM
>To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>Subject: AW: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>
><>
>
>" Some "subscribers" are actually distributors who forward the messages
>on
>the list."
>
>
>
>True! But could this effect also be there in the case of mailing lists
>for
>Stata`s competitors (so that it cancels out for Bob`s purposes)?
>
>
>
>HTH
>Martin
>
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>[mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Marcello
>Pagano
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 18:10
>An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>Betreff: Re: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>Some "subscribers" are actually distributors who forward the messages on
>the list.
>
>m.p.
>
>On 6/20/2010 12:02 PM, Martin Weiss wrote:
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> So the digest seems to boast 1,845 subscribers at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin
>Weiss
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 17:57
>> An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> Betreff: AW: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>>
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> " Do
>> you know where on Statalist it shows the number of subscribers?"
>>
>>
>> Send "who Statalist" in the body of an email to
>> majordomo@hsphsun2.harvard.edu while being a subscriber. The result at
>this
>> point in time is 1,847 for the real thing, the digest should have a
>similar
>> number. Also note my own research on similar questions at
>> http://www.stata.com/meeting/dcconf09/dc09_weiss.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Muenchen,
>> Robert A (Bob)
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juni 2010 17:45
>> An: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> Betreff: RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>>
>>> If researchers publishing papers with data analysis were required to
>>> indicate their package, that would help quite a bit. I searched
>Google
>>> Scholar for Stata, SAS and SPSS, constraining the publication year to
>>> 2009, and got 32900, 175000 and 44800.
>>
>> I tried Google Scholar but had a tough time getting consistent
>results.
>> While "R" is not at all helpful, people are supposed to cite it and I
>> searched for that. But doing it various ways, people were very
>> inconsistent. The more consistent methods drew my time away from that.
>> However, it has been over a year since I tried that method so I should
>> have another go at it.
>>
>>> Each software is idiosyncratic:
>>> should you give a link to www.sas.com or support.sas.com? should you
>>> give a link to www.stata.com or to SSC?
>>
>> I really like this idea. I tried to pick the most dominant link, so
>each
>> would be shown in the best possible light. That usually turned out to
>be
>> the main company link while there could be a more specific product
>link
>> (e.g. SPSS.COM rather than the page for SPSS Statistics, which is one
>> piece of many), but I did not think of looking at the support links.
>> I'll do that&  see if it's higher.
>>
>>> And since R does not have
>>> support in the sense the commercial vendors do, [R-help] is the only
>>> source of support, and the number of subscribers to [R-help] should
>be
>>> compared to the sum of the number subscribers to Statalist and the
>>> number of people who contacted Stata tech-support@.
>>
>> Thanks for reminding me of this. I did start down this road months
>ago.
>> Some listservs made total subscribers easy to find. Others didn't. Do
>> you know where on Statalist it shows the number of subscribers?
>>
>> I suspect I'll have a hard time getting the monthly phone call numbers
>> from the vendors, but it can't hurt to ask. Statacorp folks are
>probably
>> reading this. Any chance of that?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bob
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stas Kolenikov, also found at http://stas.kolenikov.name
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