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# RE: st: where next after nl?

 From "Keith Dear" <[email protected]> To <[email protected]> Subject RE: st: where next after nl? Date Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:52:46 +1100

```Thanks Maarten, but yes I am providing at least some starting values.

The small example I carried across to Excel had four nonlinear and just six linear parameters (_cons+5). If I insert Excel's solution just for the nonlinear parameters, then nl still fails (RSS=147,098; Excel found RSS=143,309; N=6532; RMS=2.19).

If I provide starting values for all 10 parameters, to four sig.figures, then nl sort-of agrees with that solution: it performs 20 iterations (the limit I set) without declaring convergence and without changing the RSS, and then reports a non-converged "solution" very close to the starting values.

If I roughen the starting values to just 1 figure (as if from an approximate solution as in your archive post) then nl finds (with no further change but without converging) what I suppose is a local minimum with RSS=144,129.

Maybe I should start with a 4D grid evaluation over the nonlinear parameters, fitting the linear model at each point ... but this seems more than a bit desperate, and anyway wouldn't work with 8 parameters. Any advice appreciated!
kd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maarten buis
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 7:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: st: where next after nl?

--- On Mon, 17/1/11, Keith Dear wrote:
> I've been trying to fit nonlinear models using -nl-, and
> finding that it often fails to find a good solution.

My experience with -nl- is that often it needs user specified
starting values in order to achieve reasonable convergence.
But when I specified these starting values, it tends to work
quite well. An example of how to specify starting values is
given in this post (and ofcourse in the documentation of -nl-):
<http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2008-01/msg01006.html>

Hope this helps,
Maarten

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Universitaet Tuebingen
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http://www.maartenbuis.nl
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