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RE: st: New rules
Ah, now I think I understand - ex post banning bolstered by ex ante screening to catch rescubscribers. Makes sense.
--Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Marcello Pagano
> Sent: 03 February 2010 11:55
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: st: New rules
>
> Of course, ex ante screening won't stop that first occurrence
> (if we knew how to do that we would send our method to the UN
> to stop airline terrorism!), but it does put some muscle
> behind kicking someone off.
> So, yes, it is a form of ex post banning. Not perfect, but
> let's see how it works. We can very easily go back to the
> way things were, but once burnt etc....
>
> m.p.
>
>
> Schaffer, Mark E wrote:
> > Umm... I think Marcello's posting to the list has all the
> details of the new policy, no?
> >
> > I too was very unhappy about the whole business. I am sure
> Marcello considered alternative solutions before settling on
> this one in particular. But ex ante screening of membership
> is labour-intensive (Eric's first point), makes the list less
> open (my point), and may not stop the problem from happening
> again (Eric's second point). Personally, I would have opted
> for ex post banning for bad behaviour instead of ex ante screening.
> >
> > Just my 0.02, as they say. I freely admit that it's easy
> to kibbitz from the sidelines, and that if I knew what
> Marcello knows, I could reach the same conclusion as he did.
> >
> > --Mark
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin
> >> Weiss
> >> Sent: 03 February 2010 10:31
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: AW: st: New rules
> >>
> >>
> >> <>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wait a minute before you torpedo a policy whose details you do not
> >> know yet!
> >> The bleeding had to be stopped! Remember, we were down to
> >> nationalities and mother tongues as arguments!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von
> >> Schaffer, Mark E
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2010 11:25
> >> An: [email protected]
> >> Betreff: RE: st: New rules
> >>
> >> Marcello,
> >>
> >> My reaction was similar to Eric's. Making Statalist less
> open, even
> >> if ever so slightly, may not be worth it if events like
> these happen
> >> only once every decade or so.
> >>
> >> --Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of DE SOUZA
> >>> Eric
> >>> Sent: 03 February 2010 09:47
> >>> To: '[email protected]'
> >>> Subject: RE: <POSSIBLE SPAM>st: New rules
> >>>
> >>> Dear Marcello,
> >>>
> >>> Does it happens often enough for you to spend so much time on it
> >>> screening new applicants?
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Eric de Souza
> >>> College of Europe
> >>> BE-8000 Brugge (Bruges)
> >>> Belgium
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Marcello
> >>> Pagano
> >>> Sent: 02 February 2010 22:32
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: <POSSIBLE SPAM>st: New rules
> >>>
> >>> Dear Listers,
> >>>
> >>> My apologies for allowing the tenor of the list to degrade.
> >>> We have now made a change to see if we can stop this from
> happening
> >>> again. For those currently on the list the change will not
> >>>
> >> affect you
> >>
> >>> other than you will possibly experience an improved tenor. New
> >>> subscribers will have to go through a screening process
> >>>
> >> that will add
> >>
> >>> time, hopefully less than a day, before they can subscribe. The
> >>> screening process is designed to keep some, hopefully very
> >>>
> >> few, people
> >>
> >>> out.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you all for your patience while we cleared this mess
> >>>
> >> up. Let us
> >>
> >>> hope things revert to normal where the worst we should
> expect is a
> >>> scolding from Nick.
> >>>
> >>> Keep on listing!
> >>>
> >>> m.p.
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