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Nick Cox <njcoxstata@gmail.com> |

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"statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu> |

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Re: st: Why no error with -table- & trailing -if- ? |

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Thu, 24 Oct 2013 02:01:37 +0100 |

The perhaps surprising extended role of the comma is documented at [U] 11.1.7. (http://www.stata.com/manuals13/u.pdf p.82) Nick njcoxstata@gmail.com On 24 October 2013 00:46, Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> . sysuse auto, clear >> . table rep78, c(mean mpg), if turn<40 > > Because it is out of options already. Visualize it like this: > > cmd , options, more command, more options > > Comma switches between the command and the options mode. So your > command is equivalent to: > table rep78 if turn<40, c(mean mpg) > > Best, Sergiy Radyakin > > > > >> >> >> Steve >> sjsamuels@gmail.com >> >> >> On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Sergiy Radyakin wrote: >> >> Dear Dirk, >> >> see if -savespss- and or saveto9.exe are able to help: >> http://www.radyakin.org/transfer/savespss/savespss.htm >> http://www.radyakin.org/transfer/saveto9/cs/index.htm >> >> The first one is a Stata 10.0+ command (in Mata) that writes SPSS >> system files (*.sav) directly. The second one is a standalone utility >> to "downgrade" the version of the Stata dataset without Stata at all >> (neither Stata, nor SPSS, nor Stat/Transfer is necessary for it). >> >> Best, Sergiy Radyakin >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Dirk Enzmann >> <dirk.enzmann@uni-hamburg.de> wrote: >>> Yes. >>> >>> I cannot come up with hard numbers, but here are some impressions as to the >>> difficulties: >>> >>> I already bought Stata from my private money (for use at my work!) - when I >>> bought it the first time (several years ago) my institution had no net >>> license of Stata; even after they decided to invest into a net license, I >>> regularary bought new versions because my instituion is too slow to invest >>> in updates (at the moment, the most recent version available is Stata 11!). >>> I would not starve if I had to buy StatTransfer on top of it, but I am >>> really hesitating because this I also had to pay subtracting from my salary >>> because this program does not belong to the software our institution bought >>> for use of their students or employees. >>> >>> Until Stata 12 I could live comfortably without StatTransfer - I wrote an >>> SPSS script (SPSS2Stata.sbs) to translate SPSS files to Stata and a Stata >>> .ado (-dta2sav-) to move Stata files to SPSS. But the way to SPSS is blocked >>> now since Stata 13. >>> >>> Luckily I have bought Stata 12 before, thus I can use it for moving files >>> from Stata 13 to SPSS - others, who are new to Stata since version 13 are >>> not so lucky. >>> >>> I recently convinced colleagues in Finland to use Stata - but now they >>> recognize that they have to buy StatTransfer on top of it. Of course, this >>> is my fault, I should have told them before. >>> >>> Some days ago there was a thread in the SPSS discussion list showing that >>> others experience this problem, as well (see: >>> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Stata-to-SPSS-conversion-td5722443.html >>> ). >>> >>> Perhaps more important than money is the fact that even buying StatTranfer >>> does not help in all situations: It does not preserve labels of user missing >>> values (Stata's exended missing values) when transferring Stata data to SPSS >>> data (the other way round is also not without problems). To overcome this >>> problem, I wrote -dta2sav- (availabel on SSC). Unfortunately, if you don't >>> have an older version of Stata at your disposal (here, -uses13- can help), >>> you can't use it to transfer Stata 13 (format 117) files to SPSS. >>> >>> Of course, you can blame SPSS for not updating their import routines (even >>> the maintenance of R's -foreign- package has been frozen for Stata formats >>> after 12, see http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/foreign/foreign.pdf on >>> page 5), but this does not help users who want to use Stata in a context of >>> a majority (or important) colleagues still using SPSS. >>> >>> Dirk >>> >>> >>> Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:17:34 +0100, Nick Cox<njcoxstata@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> So, in summary, you appear to be saying that you know people who could >>>> afford Stata 13 but are reluctant to buy because they (a) would be in >>>> difficulty transferring their datasets to SPSS and (b) cannot afford >>>> StatTransfer as an extra purchase? >>>> >>>> That's interesting. I have got to say that they are missing out on a >>>> great upgrade. >>>> >>>> I just checked and a single user academic license [sic] of >>>> StatTransfer is USD 179. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I understand, Sergiy's add-ons could help them a lot. >>>> >>>> StataCorp would, I think, be interested in hard evidence that they are >>> >>>> losing out on sales because people really need a kind of "save to >>>> SPSS" command before they can decide to buy. I have no insight into >>>> how SPSS is managed. >>> >>> -- >>> ======================================== >>> Dr. Dirk Enzmann >>> Institute of Criminal Sciences >>> Dept. of Criminology >>> Rothenbaumchaussee 33 >>> D-20148 Hamburg >>> Germany >>> >>> phone: +49-(0)40-42838.7498 (office) >>> +49-(0)40-42838.4591 (Mrs Billon) >>> fax: +49-(0)40-42838.2344 >>> email: dirk.enzmann@uni-hamburg.de >>> http://www2.jura.uni-hamburg.de/instkrim/kriminologie/Mitarbeiter/Enzmann/Enzmann.html >>> ======================================== >>> * >>> * For searches and help try: >>> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >>> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ >>> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ >> * >> * For searches and help try: >> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ >> >> >> * >> * For searches and help try: >> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

**Follow-Ups**:**Re: st: Why no error with -table- & trailing -if- ?***From:*Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com>

**References**:**Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Dirk Enzmann <dirk.enzmann@uni-hamburg.de>

**Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com>

**st: Why no error with -table- & trailing -if- ?***From:*Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com>

**Re: st: Why no error with -table- & trailing -if- ?***From:*Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com>

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