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RE: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?


From   "Radwin, David" <dradwin@rti.org>
To   <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   RE: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?
Date   Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:15:54 -0400

Marco,

As a workaround, you might try using an older version of Roger Newson's
-descsave-, available at
http://www.imperial.ac.uk/nhli/r.newson/stata.htm , to save formats and
labels to a do-file and -outsheet- to save the dataset to a
tab-delimited text file. 

The Stata 9 user could -insheet- the data and run the do-file to add
formats and labels. (I think -insheet- existed in Stata 9.)

David
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-
> statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Nick Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 5:53 PM
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?
> 
> Haven't tried it, but I think not.
> 
> 0. Most fundamentally, a switch allowing you to use older code cannot
> work because there is no way that the older code could understand
> version 13 datasets. Understanding version 9 datasets is necessary but
> not sufficient.
> 
> 1. I believe that it would be publicised if it worked.
> 
> 2. The help for -version- does spell out what -version- does, and it
> is very selective.
> 
> Nick
> njcoxstata@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On 16 October 2013 01:37, Jeph Herrin <stata@spandrel.net> wrote:
> > Given the first FAQ linked to below, one wonders if -version-
applies to
> > -saveold-? I don't have a way to test it, but in theory one should
be
> able
> > to use
> >
> > . version 10
> > . saveold file
> >
> > to get a version 9 file, say, from version 13.
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> > [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Sergiy
> Radyakin
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:47 AM
> > To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> > Subject: Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?
> >
> > Hello Marco,
> >
> > could you please explain a bit, why you see a need for such a
program?
> > If you have Stata 13, this means you can use -saveold- to save in
the
> > previous version, then following this FAQ all the way until version
5 if
> > necessary:
> > http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/data-management/save-for-previous-
> version/
> >
> > If you don't have Stata 13, then you use -use13- to load the data
into
> Stata
> > 10 or later.
> > http://radyakin.org/transfer/use13/use13.htm
> >
> >
> > So I see potential clients as:
> > 1) people having Stata 9 and no access to newer versions;
> > 2) people having non-Stata software that can read dta format of 9,
but
> not
> > newer and the software is not going to be updated, and there is no
> access to
> > Stata 10+
> >
> > Regarding 1) I was told the # is pretty small, but I don't know what
> 'small'
> > really is. Regarding 2) I am interested in what is out there
(regardless
> > whether maintained or not). Can we have a headcount of the programs
that
> > directly read Stata datasets? Let me start:
> > ADePT v.5.50.5001.23617 (supports data from Stata 8 to 13) ADePT Map
v2
> > (supports data from Stata 8-11) R (with package foreign) (supports
data
> from
> > Stata 5 to 12) SPSS v.15+ (supports data from Stata X?X to 9?)
> Stat/Transfer
> > (supports data from any version of Stata) etc.
> >
> > Regarding the implementation it is not at all difficult: the current
> code of
> > use13 and use10 contains all the necessary procedures to implement
save9
> > which I can do if there is any significant demand.
> >
> > Best, Sergiy Radyakin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Marco Ercolani
> <m.g.ercolani@bham.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> Dear Statalisters,
> >>
> >> I am asking for suggestions on how I can re-program -save9- so that
it
> > will work in Stata 13.
> >> In other words, so it will save data in a Stata 9 format from
within
> Stata
> > 13.
> >> I can think of two possible strategies to achieve this within Stata
13:
> >>
> >> Strategy 1: Edit the contents of the dataset so they conform to
Stata
> >> 9 protocols, save the file, then edit the the file header so that
it
> > appears to have been saved by Stata 9.
> >>
> >> Strategy 2: Use an existing save facility in Stata 13 that would
allow
> >> me to impose limits on the data so it respects Stata 9 protocols.
Does
> > such a save facility exist?
> >>
> >> Any help on the above two approaches or helpful suggestions for a
> "third
> > way" would be welcome.
> >>
> >>  Marco Ercolani
> >>  Department of Economics
> >>  University of Birmingham


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