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Daniel Mueller <mueller@iamo.de> |

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Re: st: RE: How to define shortest possible period with 95% of observations |

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Thu, 13 May 2010 02:51:35 +0700 |

Thank you. Daniel Steve Samuels wrote on 5/13/2010 2:33 AM:

What you are asking is not only contrary to Nick's recommendation (and, now, mine), it is a mistake. You are assuming that the peak day for fires occurs exactly in the middle of a "fire year". Of course the peak days will differ from year to year, and you will wind up with overlapping periods. Steve On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nick Cox<n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk> wrote:What you outline is not what I was recommending. It's an awkward half-way house. But in terms of your new question, see SJ-6-4 dm0025 . . . . . . . . . . Stata tip 36: Which observations? Erratum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. J. Cox Q4/06 SJ 6(4):596 (no commands) correction of example code for Stata tip 36 SJ-6-3 dm0025 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stata tip 36: Which observations? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. J. Cox Q3/06 SJ 6(3):430--432 (no commands) tip for identifying which observations satisfy some specified condition Nick n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk Daniel Mueller Thanks. In the code below I did my best to think in fire years by defining the peak fire day (these are always unique) as the middle of the year. Then I'd like to place the maximum into a local macro (where I fail miserably in line 2 as Steve rightly pointed out): qui su no_fire_day loc yearstart = Day[r(max)] - 183 loc yearend = `yearstart' + 365 My simple question is how I can place the Day where no_fires_day = r(max) into a local macro? (I ignore leap years for the sake of simplicity..) Nick Cox wrote on 5/12/2010 10:44 PM:Without looking at this in detail, it seems to me that you mightbenefitfrom thinking in terms of fire years, rather than calendar years, starting on some day other than January 1. After all, all sorts of different sciences, not to mention religions, have years that don't coincide with conventional Western calendar years: fiscal years, water years, academic years, etc., etc. Several pertinent -egen- functions are included in -egenmore- on SSC. In other words, define the time scale in terms of those fire years;thenRobert's code will probably not need any complicated adjustments. Nick n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk Daniel Mueller Robert, this works like charm!!! Thanks a bunch for this neat code.Alsothanks to Nick for pointing me to -shorth- which I will certainly explore in more detail after having sipped through the extensive reference list. Using Roberts code I can seamlessly loop over the nine years of dataandgenerate the shortest fire season per year with 95% of obs. Theresultssuggested an additional complication.. For some subsets the shortest possible period likely starts a couple of days before Jan 1st, at the end of the preceding year. I tweaked Roberts code a little to loop over years and defined the middle of a year as the peak fire day. The code runs through, yet sets the start of the fire season for some subsets to Jan 1st, while my educated guess is that it should be somewhere around mid to end of December. Something went wrong, but I can't spot the glitch in thecodebelow. Can someone please help? Thanks a lot in advance and best regards, Daniel *** start forv y = `yearfirst'/`yearlast' { * keep previous year if `y' != `yearfirst' { keep if Year == `y' | Year == (`y'-1) } bys Day: g no_fire_day = _N qui su no_fire_day * define year to start 183 days before peak fire day loc yearstart = Day[r(max)] - 183 loc yearend = `yearstart' + 365 keep if Day> `yearstart'& Day< `yearend' // or withegen->rotate?bys Day: keep if _n == _N g nobs = _n * the target is a continuous run that includes 95% of all fires sum no_fire_day, meanonly scalar target = .95 * r(sum) scalar shortlen = . gen arun = . gen bestrun = . * at each pass, create a run that starts at nobs == `i' * and identify the nobs where the number of fires>= 95% local more 1 local i = 0 while `more' { local i = `i' + 1 qui replace arun = sum(no_fire_day * (nobs>= `i')) sum nobs if arun>= target, meanonly if r(N) == 0 local more 0 else if (Day[r(min)] - Day[`i'])< shortlen { scalar shortlen = Day[r(min)] - Day[`i'] qui replace bestrun = arun qui replace bestrun = . if nobs> r(min) | nobs< `i' } } qui drop if bestrun == . drop bestrun arun save fires_`y', replace } *** end Robert Picard wrote on 5/11/2010 3:28 AM:Here is how I would approach this problem. I would do each year separately; it could be done all at once but it would complicate the code unnecessarily. If the fire data is one observation per fire, I would -collapse- it to one observation per day. Each observationwouldcontain the number of fires that day. The following code willidentifythe first instance of the shortest run of days that includes 95% of fires for the year. Note that the following code will work, even if there are dayswithoutfires (and thus no observation for that day). *--------------------------- begin example ----------------------- version 11 * daily fire counts; with some days without fires clear all set seed 123 set obs 365 gen day = _n drop if uniform()< .1 gen nobs = _n gen nfires = round(uniform() * 10) * the target is a continuous run that includes 95% of all fires sum nfires, meanonly scalar target = .95 * r(sum) dis target scalar shortlen = . gen arun = . gen bestrun = . * at each pass, create a run that starts at nobs == `i' * and identify the nobs where the number of fires>= 95% local more 1 local i 0 while `more' { local i = `i' + 1 qui replace arun = sum(nfires * (nobs>=`i')) sum nobs if arun>= target, meanonly if r(N) == 0 local more 0 else if (day[r(min)] - day[`i'])< shortlen { scalar shortlen = day[r(min)] - day[`i'] qui replace bestrun = arun qui replace bestrun = . if nobs> r(min) | nobs< `i' } } *--------------------- end example -------------------------- Hope this help, Robert On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Nick Cox<n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk>wrote:I don't think any trick is possible unless you know in advance the precise distribution, e.g. that it is Gaussian, or exponential, or whatever, which here is not the case. So, you need to look at all the possibilities from the intervalstartingat the minimum to the interval starting at the 5% point of the fire number distribution in each year. However, this may all be achievable using -shorth- (SSC). Look atthe-proportion()- option, but you would need to -expand- first to get a separate observation for each fire. If that's not practicable, look inside the code of -shorth- to get ideas on how to proceed. Notethatnolooping is necessary: the whole problem will reduce to use of -by:-andsubscripts. Nick n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk Daniel Mueller I have a strongly unbalanced panel with 100,000 observations (=fire occurrences per day) that contain between none (no fire) and 3,000firesper day for 8 years. The fire events peak in March and April withabout85-90% of the yearly total. My question is how I can define the shortest possible continuousperiodof days for each year that contains 95% of all yearly fires. Thelengthand width of the periods may slightly differ across the years due to climate and other parameters. I am sure there is a neat trick in Stata for this, yet I have not spotted it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.* * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/* * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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**References**:**st: How to define shortest possible period with 95% of observations***From:*Daniel Mueller <mueller@iamo.de>

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**Re: st: RE: How to define shortest possible period with 95% of observations***From:*Daniel Mueller <mueller@iamo.de>

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**Re: st: RE: How to define shortest possible period with 95% of observations***From:*Daniel Mueller <mueller@iamo.de>

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