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Re: st: chi2 - use alternative expected values
From
Nick Cox <[email protected]>
To
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject
Re: st: chi2 - use alternative expected values
Date
Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:08:26 +0000
For stuff like this, the best advice is normally to use Mata as a
calculator. But Mata was introduced in Stata 9. Let's go with Mata,
any way, for folks on 9 up and then give Mike an alternative.
Firing up Mata we have a matrix of frequencies
: f = (41, 30, 7 \ 124, 62, 10)
and a vector of column proportions
: p = (0.048, 0.338, 0.614)
so we can get a matrix of expected frequencies
: fhat = rowsum(f) * p
and Pearson chi-square statistic
: sum((f - fhat):^2 :/ fhat)
1903.354724
I like to look at so-called Pearson residuals (to the best of my
knowledge, first used by Tukey)
: (f - fhat) :/ sqrt(fhat)
1 2 3
+----------------------------------------------+
1 | 19.2543253 .7081385267 -5.908903061 |
2 | 37.35989483 -.5219130093 -10.05857601 |
+----------------------------------------------+
The massive chi-square statistic goes with col 1 much more and col 2
much less than expected (unless Mike flipped columns) and the P-value
on 2 df is negligible:
: chi2tail(2, sum((f - fhat):^2 :/ fhat))
0
: strofreal(chi2tail(2, sum((f - fhat):^2 :/ fhat)), "%21x")
+0.0000000000000X-3ff
: end
Mike could do that with Stata's matrix language, although installing
Jeroen Weesie's -matsum- from STB would also be a good idea. But
friendlier is the ancient but still serviceable -chitesti- from
-tab_chi- (SSC). We ravel the matrix to a vector, but we must tell
-chitesti- the correct df. If presented with a vector of 6 observed
and another vector of 6 expected, -chitesti- will think 5 df, so we
must override that by subtracting 3.
chitesti 41 30 7 124 62 10 \ 78*0.048 78*0.338 78*0.614 196*0.048
196*0.338 196*0.614, nfit(3) sep(0)
observed frequencies from keyboard; expected frequencies from keyboard
Pearson chi2(2) = 1.9e+03 Pr = 0.000
likelihood-ratio chi2(2) = 758.6395 Pr = 0.000
+---------------------------------------------------+
| observed expected notes obs - exp Pearson |
|---------------------------------------------------|
| 41 3.744 * 37.256 19.254 |
| 30 26.364 3.636 0.708 |
| 7 47.892 -40.892 -5.909 |
| 124 9.408 114.592 37.360 |
| 62 66.248 -4.248 -0.522 |
| 10 120.344 -110.344 -10.059 |
+---------------------------------------------------+
* 1 <= expected < 5
. ret li
scalars:
r(k) = 6
r(df) = 2
r(chi2) = 1903.354724254806
r(p) = 0
r(chi2_lr) = 758.6394519065682
r(p_lr) = 1.8345778320e-165
r(emean) = 45.66666666666666
Confirmation that the P-value is negligible. Massive rejection, as
inspection of the original frequencies would suggest.
Nick
[email protected]
On 7 December 2013 08:17, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> A version 8 user, here.
>
> Consider the following...
>
> tabi 41 30 7 \ 124 62 10 , chi2 expected
> list
>
> Here Stata calculates expected values for each cell, based on the
> frequency of my observed values (i.e. row_total x col_total /
> grand_total).
>
> However, I have alternative expected values that I'd like to use (I know
> that frequencies of col 1, 2 and 3 should be 0.048, 0.338 and 0.614,
> respectively).
>
> Can I get Stata to use alternative expected values for the chi2 calculation?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
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