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Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com> |

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"statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu> |

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Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13? |

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Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:05:18 -0400 |

Stas, Stata 8 and 9 share the same data format (specification 113), so although SPSS says it writes in 5-8, it should equally read and write 9 (perhaps the menu text was designed at the time Stata 9 did not exist yet). Here is another reference it supports 9: http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/mult_pkg/faq/fromStata_toSPSS.htm But introduction of reading Stata dataset capability was apparently added in version 14 (contrary to the above reference): http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/spssstat/v20r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.spss.statistics.help%2Fwhatsnew_14.0.htm Furthermore, it seems the request for support of newer Stata formats was requested still in the 17th generation of SPSS: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21477575 Best, Sergiy Radyakin On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com> wrote: > Sergiy, > > regarding 2), I have access at work to SPSS 21 that seems to work with > Stata 8 files (at least their internal "Save As" gives options from > Stata 5 through Stata 8). From Stata 12 that I have at work, the > -save-d files (under version 12) cannot be read by SPSS, but -saveold- > produces the version-8-compatible data set that SPSS can work with. > > -- Stas Kolenikov, PhD, PStat (ASA, SSC) > -- Senior Survey Statistician, Abt SRBI > -- Opinions stated in this email are mine only, and do not reflect the > position of my employer > -- http://stas.kolenikov.name > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello Marco, >> >> could you please explain a bit, why you see a need for such a program? >> If you have Stata 13, this means you can use -saveold- to save in the >> previous version, then following this FAQ all the way until version 5 >> if necessary: >> http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/data-management/save-for-previous-version/ >> >> If you don't have Stata 13, then you use -use13- to load the data into >> Stata 10 or later. >> http://radyakin.org/transfer/use13/use13.htm >> >> >> So I see potential clients as: >> 1) people having Stata 9 and no access to newer versions; >> 2) people having non-Stata software that can read dta format of 9, but >> not newer and the software is not going to be updated, and there is no >> access to Stata 10+ >> >> Regarding 1) I was told the # is pretty small, but I don't know what >> 'small' really is. Regarding 2) I am interested in what is out there >> (regardless whether maintained or not). Can we have a headcount of the >> programs that directly read Stata datasets? Let me start: >> ADePT v.5.50.5001.23617 (supports data from Stata 8 to 13) >> ADePT Map v2 (supports data from Stata 8-11) >> R (with package foreign) (supports data from Stata 5 to 12) >> SPSS v.15+ (supports data from Stata X?X to 9?) >> Stat/Transfer (supports data from any version of Stata) >> etc. >> >> Regarding the implementation it is not at all difficult: the current >> code of use13 and use10 contains all the necessary procedures to >> implement save9 which I can do if there is any significant demand. >> >> Best, Sergiy Radyakin >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Marco Ercolani <m.g.ercolani@bham.ac.uk> wrote: >>> Dear Statalisters, >>> >>> I am asking for suggestions on how I can re-program -save9- so that it will work in Stata 13. >>> In other words, so it will save data in a Stata 9 format from within Stata 13. >>> I can think of two possible strategies to achieve this within Stata 13: >>> >>> Strategy 1: Edit the contents of the dataset so they conform to Stata 9 protocols, save the file, >>> then edit the the file header so that it appears to have been saved by Stata 9. >>> >>> Strategy 2: Use an existing save facility in Stata 13 that would allow me to impose limits on the >>> data so it respects Stata 9 protocols. Does such a save facility exist? >>> >>> Any help on the above two approaches or helpful suggestions for a "third way" would be welcome. >>> >>> Marco Ercolani >>> Department of Economics >>> University of Birmingham >>> >>> * >>> * For searches and help try: >>> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >>> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ >>> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ >> * >> * For searches and help try: >> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

**Follow-Ups**:**Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Nick Cox <njcoxstata@gmail.com>

**References**:**st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Marco Ercolani <m.g.ercolani@bham.ac.uk>

**Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com>

**Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?***From:*Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com>

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