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Re: st: Reproducing results - was managing updates


From   Maarten buis <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st: Reproducing results - was managing updates
Date   Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:45:13 +0000 (GMT)

Before you start developing your own system for ensuring 
exact reproducability I would contact StataCorp directly.
If you go to them with a serious request, they will take
it seriously.

-- Maarten

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Maarten L. Buis
Institut fuer Soziologie
Universitaet Tuebingen
Wilhelmstrasse 36
72074 Tuebingen
Germany

http://www.maartenbuis.nl
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--- On Wed, 2/3/11, Argyn Kuketayev wrote:
> in IT it's a solved problem. first of
> all, there are build/revision
> numbers of any software library or tool. if i download Java
> VM, it
> comes with a build number. the same with any libraries,
> such as
> Commons-Math. second, all custom codes and build scripts
> are in source
> control systems such as SVN. third, we have regression and
> unit tests.
> i can go to SVN, checkout any particular revision and run
> my test
> suite, it will produce exactly the same result every time,
> because all
> components are controlled.
> 
> in old times, systems like Smalltalk used to be like Stata,
> where you
> can run something and update the core VM. it's quite hard
> to control,
> you have to keep snapshots of the system all the time.
> that's why i
> was surprised that Stata didn't seem to have a standard
> revision
> control procedures. the re-produceability of results is a
> big thing to
> me. i'm trying to figure out how to do it before we got too
> deep in
> development.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Allan Reese (Cefas)
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > This appears to connect with a current debate in
> Science and Nature
> > magazines.  For a general introduction see blog
> > http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/26/the-code-of-nature-making-authors-
> > part-with-their-programs/
> >
> > If you have a command log file started automatically
> from profile.do,
> > keep an output log file of critical runs, and keep
> versions of data
> > files (rather than -replace- them) you are well ahead
> of most people.
> > -update query- would insert in your output the dates
> of last update.
> > Obviously you need to keep any locally-written code
> files.  If an
> > analysis run in 2011 gives answer A but "the same"
> analysis run in 2013
> > gives answer B, the issues are (1) is either A or B
> provably or credibly
> > correct, and (2) if A is undermined, is anyone
> suggesting bad faith
> > rather than bad luck?
> 
> thanks for the link to a blog
> 
> -- 
> Argyn Kuketayev
> 
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