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st: RE: Teaching Stata to Public Health Students

From   "Lachenbruch, Peter" <>
To   "''" <>
Subject   st: RE: Teaching Stata to Public Health Students
Date   Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:12:43 -0800

We've used Stata in our biostatistics courses and students tend to get along fairly well.  I give a course using Long's book that's well received.  Many social science faculty like SPSS which I don't.  the theoretical statisticians love R - it's not useful for MPH students.  Tips might include contact the Biostatistics department at UMn to try to get their buy in.  Often the main reason for not using Stata is that they don't know it and its extensive features.


Peter A. Lachenbruch
Department of Public Health
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97330
Phone: 541-737-3832
FAX: 541-737-4001

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of J Michael Oakes
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: st: Teaching Stata to Pubic Health Students

Greetings - My colleagues and I are once again trying to decide how best 
to train our Masters of Public Health (MPH) students in applied data 
analysis *AND* data preparation and mgt. The latter stuff always takes 
the most of my time but rarely gets taught or emphasized in the 
classroom where fancy models seem to dominate.

Although I've taught Stata here for nearly ten years, many colleagues 
still "promote" SAS. The problem with this is most MPH students never 
really "get SAS" and struggle through their thesis and beyond. My Stata 
students do much better -- it's not me, it's Stata and Scott Long's 
super Workflow book.

Was hoping members of this list might comment on what software (esp SAS 
v Stata) and *data management* courses they offer their masters/graduate 
students. I am particularly interested in comments from Public Health 
faculty but insights from anyone would be most welcome.

Best Wishes - Michael

J. Michael Oakes, Ph.D.
McKnight Presidential Fellow
Associate Professor
Division of Epidemiology
Co-Director, Census Research Data Center
University of Minnesota
1300 South 2nd Street
Minneapolis, MN 55454-1015

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