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Roger Newson <r.newson@imperial.ac.uk> |

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"statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu> |

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Re: st: comparing differences in Kendall's tau or Spearman's coefficient using somersd and/or bootstrap |

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Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:28:12 +0100 |

I hope this helps. Best wishes Roger Roger B Newson BSc MSc DPhil Lecturer in Medical Statistics Respiratory Epidemiology and Public Health Group National Heart and Lung Institute Imperial College London Royal Brompton Campus Room 33, Emmanuel Kaye Building 1B Manresa Road London SW3 6LR UNITED KINGDOM Tel: +44 (0)20 7352 8121 ext 3381 Fax: +44 (0)20 7351 8322 Email: r.newson@imperial.ac.uk Web page: http://www.imperial.ac.uk/nhli/r.newson/ Departmental Web page: http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/about/divisions/nhli/respiration/popgenetics/reph/ Opinions expressed are those of the author, not of the institution. On 28/04/2010 05:37, Chong, Qi Lin Andrew wrote:

Hi all, thanks a lot to Dr. Newson for responding to my question. To him and all others, I am unsure how I should proceed with the bootstrap command. As Dr. Newson explained accurately, I am "trying to measure the tau-a correlation between "Efficiency definition 1" (ED1) in Year A and ED1 in Year B, and then measure the tau-a correlation between "Efficiency Definition 2" (ED2) in Year A and ED2 in Year B, and then calculate a confidence interval for the difference between the 2 taus." If I were to reorder the data set so that each firm has "ED1 YearA" "ED1 YearB" "ED2 YearA" "ED2 YearB" lined up next to each other, etc, ed1a ed1b ed2a ed2b, how should I go about estimating this interval? If it is easy to give me the exact commands, I would very much appreciate it, but if not any advice would be much appreciated. I am trying to calculate the statistical significance of their difference, so should I be drawing bootstrap samples of firms with ed1a ed1b ed2a ed2b all together? And then calculating one difference between ed1a ed1b& ed2a ed2b for each sample? Would this involve some kind of programming using bootstrap alone and w/o somersd? Also, does it matter that Spearman is in terms of RANKS, so if I happen to draw the same sample twice from say the 6000 observations I have, then there would be a tie in the bootstrap drawn sample (6000 obs from original 6000 but with replacement)? Would this tie be a problem? Many thanks for your help! Andrew ________________________________________ From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Newson [r.newson@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08 AM To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Subject: Re: st: comparing differences in Kendall's tau or Spearman's coefficient using somersd As I understand it, you are trying to measure the tau-a correlation between "Efficiency definition 1" (ED1) in Year A and ED1 in Year B, and then measure the tau-a correlation between "Efficiency Definition 2" (ED2) in Year A and ED2 in Year B, and then calculate a confidence interval for the difference between the 2 taus. The somersd package unfortunately does not yet do this, The examples in the manual are more similar to the case where there is a third efficiency definition (ED3), which is thought too be a "gold standard". We would then compare the tau-a between ED3 and ED1 with the tau-a between ED3 and ED2, and find out which is greater. To do what you want to do, the best answer will be to use either the jackknife or the bootstrap. Both of these are available in Stata. However, your query has drawn attention to an important limitation of the -somersd- package. It would be an improvement if -somersd- could output the delta-jackknife pseudovalues or the delta-jackknife influence function to an output dataset (or resultsset) with 1 observation per cluster and data on the pseudovalues or influence function. This is one of many improvements I would like to make to -somersd- when I have the time. I hope this helps. Best wishes Roger Roger B Newson BSc MSc DPhil Lecturer in Medical Statistics Respiratory Epidemiology and Public Health Group National Heart and Lung Institute Imperial College London Royal Brompton Campus Room 33, Emmanuel Kaye Building 1B Manresa Road London SW3 6LR UNITED KINGDOM Tel: +44 (0)20 7352 8121 ext 3381 Fax: +44 (0)20 7351 8322 Email: r.newson@imperial.ac.uk Web page: http://www.imperial.ac.uk/nhli/r.newson/ Departmental Web page: http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/about/divisions/nhli/respiration/popgenetics/reph/ Opinions expressed are those of the author, not of the institution. On 25/04/2010 19:11, Chong, Qi Lin Andrew wrote:The scores are bounded from 1 to infinity, and a half-normal distribution has been assumed for them in the original stochastic frontier (and a normal distribution for the errors). A score of say 1.25 indicates a firm incurs 25% more costs than the most efficient firm it can be compared* * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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**References**:**RE: st: comparing differences in Kendall's tau or Spearman's coefficient using somersd and/or bootstrap***From:*"Chong, Qi Lin Andrew" <qchong@middlebury.edu>

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