# Re: st: My last word on strange world

 From SamL <[email protected]> To [email protected] Subject Re: st: My last word on strange world Date Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:03:38 -0800 (PST)

```I have learned a lot from this discussion.  In this most recent go 'round
I did not think anyone was trying to have the last word. I thought each
person was providing *their* own *personal* last word on the matter.  I
admit, some contributed a "really" last word after their first "last word"
statement.  But I did not see anyone--save, perhaps, Svend?--who was
suggesting they were providing THE last word on the topic.

And now, I guess, me.

Perhaps this can be the last word on the topic for 2008?

Let's move on.  Let's call this:

Done.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Svend Juul wrote:

>
> So many trying to get the last word on a problem that won't go away.
>
> I read Bill Gould's comments as a bit softer than they used to be, but I
> may be mistaken. Bill writes: "... the problem of missing values and the
> number line are inherent"
>
> Yes, but does that make it necessary to
>    - let (x) evaluate to true if x is missing:
>       . gen y=1 if x
>    - let (x>100) evaluate to true if x is missing:
>       . gen y=1 if x>100
>
> Obviously, some decision was needed. The decision made is perfectly
> logical, but the following alternative is equally logical and much more
> in line with the expectations of ordinary users:
>    - let (x) evaluate to false if x is missing
>    - let (x>100) evaluate to false if x is missing
>    - let (x==100) evaluate to false if x is missing
>    - let (x<100) evaluate to false if x is missing
>    - let (x==.) evaluate to true if x is . (missing)
>
> Nick Cox asks: "What do you consider appropriate Stata behaviour for
>    . list x if x > 42
>    . regress z y if x > 42"
> This is easy: I consider it appropriate to omit observations with x
> missing in both situations.
>
> I do not care about the internal value of missings (this is why I bought
> a statistical package program), and I see no problem in the way -sort-
> handles them.
>
> Bill Gould: "The observations containing missing values need to be easy
> to identify and classify". Don't the missing() function and egen's
> rowmiss() and rownonmiss() do that perfectly?
>
> Last word? Hardly.
>
> Svend
>
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>
> Svend Juul
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