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From   "Maarten Buis" <>
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Date   Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:59:23 +0200

Xiaoqiang Cheng:
You are fitting a nonlinear curve, so the effect of x changes as x changes. See for instance slide 21 in my presentation. With -mfx- you are summarizing this with one number, so you are approximating this non-linear curve with a straight line. In other words you are estimating the effect of a unit change for an average individual (default), or an individual with the values of x you specified. If the unit of your x is pretty small this approximation is usually fine, but if it is large you get strange results like you have just shown. -mfx- won't standardize the explanatory variable for you, so if you haven't standardized the variable uba, than -mfx- will show you the effect of a unit change, where the unit is the original unit in your dataset. The solution is to choose a smaller unit, for instance by dividing uba by some number (10 or 100) to improve the approximation.  

Maarten L. Buis
Department of Social Research Methodology 
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam 
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-----Original Message-----
From: []On Behalf Of Cheng, Xiaoqiang
Sent: maandag 2 oktober 2006 11:44
Subject: st: RE: st: ´ð¸´: st: How to choose a proper model if the dependent variable is within bounds?
However, there is a problem now:

-mfx- predicts that:

variable |      dy/dx    Std. Err.     z    P>|z|  [    95% C.I.   ]      X
uba|        -3.05144     1.55749   -1.96   0.050  6.10406  .001175   .004839

And the effect of uba on dependent variable exceeds unit if one std. dev. Of uba changes, certirus paribus?


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