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Re: st: k-sample tests for differences in proportions |

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05 Nov 2003 11:55:04 -0600 |

On Wednesday, Karen Robson wrote: > What I am trying to calculate is if the mean of a dummy > variable is different across the categories of a separate > categorical variable. > If my DV was continuous, I could do an anova and with > post-hoc estimations figure out where the significant > differences between categories were. Karen wants to do two things: 1) test if the proportions are the same or different, and then 2) if (1) shows significant evidence of a difference in proportions between the groups, she will want to test each pair of groups to see where the difference lies. As Jingky responded, a common way to approach (1), is to do a (large sample) Chi-test. Here I am using the dataset generated by Joseph Coveney's in his response: clear set obs 300 set seed 20031105 generate byte religion = mod(_n, 5) + 1 generate byte degreed = uniform() > 0.6 replace deg= uniform() > 0.3 if rel==5 table rel, c(mean deg) tabulate religion degreed, chi2 Stata can do an exact test which is appropriate if the sample is small: tabulate religion degreed, exact This exact test is the generalization of Fisher's exact test to an r X c table. It takes quite some time to calculate for even a modestly sized table. Another common way to approach (1), is with logistic regression. With this the null hypothesis is that the odds ratio = 1, which is the same a saying that the odds of success is the same across all groups. When the probability of success (or failure) is small, the odds ratio is amost equal to the relative risk, and so in that case, testing whether or not the odds ratio is 1 is the same as testing whether or not the proportions are equal. I think one reason logistic regression (or any other general linear model for a binary response) is often used, is that you can easily incorporate additional explanitory varibles into your model, that is, control for other factors beyond the one in which you are particularly interested. Let's get to the code: logistic degreed religion, nolog I deliberately cooked up a dataset to have group 5 to be different from the others, so our odds ratio should come out being significantly different from 1. This answers question (1). But what about question (2)? How can we tell that it is group 5 that is the problem? We can still use logistic regression, using dummy variables (as Joseph did in his response): xi: logistic degreed i.religion, nolog Stata tells you that one group has been ommitted (group 1), so the odds ratios are the comparison of each group to group 1. So now we can tell that group 5 is the problem case. But, does that tell us the whole story? Go back and look at the table of proportions: table rel, c(mean deg) It looks to me like the biggest difference is between group 2 and group 5. How can I test for that? Well, I need to control which dummy is ommitted so I can control the pairs of groups I am comparing. I do this as follows: qui tabulate rel, gen(cat) logistic deg cat2 cat3 cat4 cat5 logistic deg cat1 cat3 cat4 cat5 logistic deg cat1 cat2 cat4 cat5 logistic deg cat1 cat2 cat3 cat5 logistic deg cat1 cat2 cat3 cat4 This surely tells me everything I need to know? Looking at the last output I see that group 2 is the most different from group 5 (odds ratio furthest away from 1). BUT (an even bigger but than the previous but), I have to watch out that I don't make a mistake now. When I look at all those comparisons between groups that I just did, what is the over all error rate? When I make one comparison the error rate is less than alpha which we usually set at 0.05. When you want to make many comparisons, you have to make some sort of adjustment to what you will call "significant" if you want to control how many mistakes you are prepared to make in all those decisions. A common (approximate) adjustment to the error rate is called Bonferroni, which means just divide alpha by the number of comparisons and compare each p-value to that. In our case thse means divided by ten (because we have 5 groups 5*4/2=10 pairs of groups to compare). So, when I am looking over all those p-value produced by all those logistic regressions above, I need to be comparing them to 0.005, not 0.05, to look for significance. The moral here is to be very careful when making multiple comparisons and think about the overall error rate when considering p-values. What about other methods besides regression? Glad you asked. What about if I tried multiple -prtest-, with a Bonferroni correction? Will I arrive at the same decisions as I would have using -logistic-? display as text _n " ------------ multiple prtests, with Bonferroni correction" _n local group = "religion" local numgrp = 5 local bin = "degreed" local alpha=0.05 local numcomps= `numgrp'*(`numgrp'-1)/2 display "p-value compared to alpha/(#groups*(#groups-1)/2) = `alpha'/`numcomps'" forvalues i=1/`numgrp'{ local i1=`i'+1 forvalues j=`i1'/`numgrp'{ qui prtest `bin' if `group'==`i' |`group'==`j' , by(`group') local ts=r(z) local p=2*(1 - norm(abs(r(z)))) if `p' < 10^(-6) local p=0 if `p' < `alpha'/`numcomps' { local reject = "reject" } else{ local reject= "fail to reject" } display as result "prtest " `i' ", " `j' /* */ " test stat = " %8.4f `ts' /* */ _col(37) " p value = " %8.4f `p' /* */ _col(63) " `reject'" } display _newline } We get the same decisions. We do have to remember with this approach, that -prtest- is a large sample test. We can do this test of each pair approach using any of the tests used for comparing two groups. In other words, you could do the above using -tabulate, chi2- (also for large samples) or -tabulate, exact- (for small samples). But what about the Bonferroni correction? How good is that? Well, I only know of one other way to handle this situation, which avoids Bonferroni. It's called the Marascuillo Procedure. I have not found a good reference for it in a book, but it is described at this website: http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/prc/section4/prc474.htm Let's see how it stacks up against what we have already done: display as text _n " ------------ Marascuillo Procedure " _n forvalues i=1/`numgrp'{ quietly summ `bin' if `group' ==`i' local p`i'=r(mean) local N`i'=r(N) } forvalues i=1/`numgrp'{ local i1=`i'+1 forvalues j=`i1'/`numgrp'{ local se=sqrt(`p`i''*(1-`p`i'')/`N`i'' + `p`j''*(1-`p`j'')/`N`j'') local cv=sqrt(invchi2tail(`numgrp',`alpha'))*`se' local ts=abs(`p`i''-`p`j'') if `ts' > `cv' { local reject = "reject" } else{ local reject= "fail to reject" } display as result "test " `i' ", " `j' /* */ " crit val = " %8.4f `cv' /* */ _col(37) " test stat = " %8.4f `ts' /* */ _col(63) " `reject'" } display _newline } Same decisions as before. yours, May [email protected] * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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