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st: RE: st: C-statistic with -gologit2-

From   "Newson, Roger B" <>
To   "''" <>
Subject   st: RE: st: C-statistic with -gologit2-
Date   Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:30:59 +0100

In the case of ordinal regression, instead of using the predicted probability, you should use the linear predictor, computed using -predict- with the -xb- option. This linear predictor is an ordinal predictor of the outcome. It then makes sense to use the c-statistic, although the confidence intervals should only be taken seriously if calculated (using out-of-sample prediction) in a different dataset from the dataset in which the ordinal model was fitted.

In the case of mlogit, there are multiple linear predictors, interpreted as the log odds ratios (per X-unit) of the various non-baseline outcomes compared to the baseline outcome. In that case, the c-statistic for the linear predictor for each non-baseline outcome only makes sense if restricted to observations with either that non-baseline outcome or the baseline outcome.

Best wishes


Roger B Newson BSc MSc DPhil
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-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Richard Williams
Sent: 07 October 2009 19:56
Subject: Re: st: C-statistic with -gologit2-

At 07:18 AM 10/7/2009, Jeph Herrin wrote:
>I posted some code for getting the C-stat a few days ago
>I'm not familiar with -gologit-, but as long as you can produce
>a predicted probability, the method should apply.

How about when there are multiple outcomes and hence multiple 
predicted probabilities?  e.g. with gologit2, ologit, oprobit, 
mlogit, and others, you get predicted probabilities for outcome 1, 
outcome 2, outcome 3, etc.  Does the C-stat even apply in such 
cases?  (I'm glad the original question was sent to the list rather 
than to me as the author of gologit2, because I have no idea what the 
answer is!)

Richard Williams, Notre Dame Dept of Sociology
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