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Re: Model choice [Was: st: which -cmp- option to use for poisson model with count data?]


From   "Laura R." <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: Model choice [Was: st: which -cmp- option to use for poisson model with count data?]
Date   Tue, 8 May 2012 19:06:37 +0200

It seems to be an endless discussion.

Thank you all for your inputs. Stephen, I will have a look on that
book you mentioned.

LR



2012/5/8  <[email protected]>:
> If the DV is categorical in its metric, why would you be fitting the model by OLS?
>
> C
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Justina Fischer" <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 11:54:02
> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]: Re: Model choice [Was: st: which -cmp- option to use for poisson model
>  with count data?]
>
> Shouldn't the right question rather be:
>
> How seriously does violation of assumption x affect (bias) my estimates ?
>
> For many instances with categorical dependent variables, it has been shown that the bias produced by OLS is relatively small.
>
> Justina
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:02:26 +0100
>> Von: [email protected]
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Model choice [Was: st: which -cmp- option to use for poisson model with count data?]
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 20:54:23 +0200
>> From: "Laura R." <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: st: which -cmp- option to use for poisson model with count
>> data?
>>
>> Dear Maarten,
>>
>> I thought if the independence assumption is violated in an ordered
>> probit model, one definitely cannot use this model, because it's the
>> wrong model. I have never heard anyone saying "I use this model
>> anyways, because ..." and explaining some good reasons.
>>
>> =============
>>
>> As famous statistician George Box once said, 'Essentially, all models
>> are wrong, but some are useful'. (See
>> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_E._P._Box)
>>
>> One might use the espousal of OLS regression in all sorts of contexts by
>> J Angrist and J.-S. Pischke's in their book, Mostly Harmless
>> Econometrics (Princeton UP, 2009), as a counter-example to the claim in
>> your last sentence.
>>
>>
>> Stephen
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