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"Martin Weiss" <[email protected]> |

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st: RE: RE: Mixed question |

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Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:31:40 +0100 |

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" I believe Stata does the proper mixture of chi squares and then issues a
dire warning as a footnote about the fact that the LR test is conservative
(which is true"
It does, and there is a help file dedicated to the issue:
-help j_xtmixedlr-
HTH
Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Verkuilen, Jay
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 22:25
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: st: RE: Mixed question
Morten Hesse wrote:
>>My question is probably more a general statistical question than a Stata
question (and maybe one for beginners). But I wonder: how do I estimate
the significance of random effects in multilevel models, such as
xtmixed? I suspect there is a reason why neither GLLAMM nor xtmixed
gives significance levels and standardized effect sizes, but just
coefficients and standard errors. Of course, I could calculate a Z
statistic from these, but since the program doesn't I assume that is
wrong.<<
Just elaborating Maarten's point a bit. Because tau = 0 is on the boundary
of the parameter space, the distribution under the null hypothesis is ugly.
It ends up being a mixture of chi squares of different degrees of freedom.
The standard reference on this topic is by Liang and Self, uh:
Self, S. G., and Liang, K. Y. (1987). Asymptotic properties of maximum
likelihood estimators and
likelihood ratio tests under nonstandard conditions. J Am Stat Assoc 82,
605-610.
The safest thing is to fit the model you want to test vs. the reference
model you want to test it against and then do the LR test. I believe Stata
does the proper mixture of chi squares and then issues a dire warning as a
footnote about the fact that the LR test is conservative (which is true).
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**References**:**st: Mixed question***From:*Morten Hesse <[email protected]>

**st: RE: Mixed question***From:*"Verkuilen, Jay" <[email protected]>

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