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Re: st: goodness of MNL fit

From   Maarten buis <>
Subject   Re: st: goodness of MNL fit
Date   Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:25:34 +0100 (BST)

--- Chiara Mussida <> wrote:
> i'm trying to find a reliable measure of goodness of fit for MNL.
> Fitstat, indeed, shows the well known Mc Fadden R2 but there are
> issues surrounding this indicator.
> Do you know if there are other commands to implement to get such a
> kind of indicator?

There are issues surrounding all indicators of fit. The whole concept
of a measure for the goodness of fit is seriously flawed. First, it
requires a precise definition of goodness of fit, which will always be
arbitrary. Second, what would it mean if you found a bad fitting model?
It may mean that the model is bad, but within the social/economic
sciences I would guess that all models are supposed to have a bad fit:
I hope that we are not entirely determined by our surroundings, though
that is the mechanism I am studying.

So, if I were forced to use one (by advisors/editors/reviewers) I would
pick one, report it, forget it, and focuss on the really important
stuff like interpreting the coefficients or testing the hypotheses of
interest. I certainly would not waste time on looking for "the best"
indicator of fit, as it won't exist. 

-- Maarten

Maarten L. Buis
Department of Social Research Methodology
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
Boelelaan 1081
1081 HV Amsterdam
The Netherlands

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