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RE: st: gologit2


From   David Jacobs <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   RE: st: gologit2
Date   Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:27:48 -0400

Thanks so much for both comments. I must get ready for a night class now, but I'd like to get back to you latter perhaps off list??

Dave Jacobs

At 04:15 PM 4/17/2008, you wrote:

--- David Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I don't yet find a solution for how to handle referees who often
> > can be mechanical and rigid about the departures they will allow
> > from the most conservative textbook practices.

--- Maarten buis <[email protected]> wrote:
> The easiest way to make everybody happy when the Brant test rejects
> the null, is to show an ologit and a gologit, and (hopefully) show
> that the results are very similar. Then you can refer to the
> distinction between statistical and practical significance, or the
> conclusion does not change, etc.

Alternatives are:
o If your dataset is large you can use (Raftery 1995), he does not deal
with -ologit- specificaly, but more generally with hypothesis
testing/model selection in large datasets. Than you can compare BICs,
these are less likely to reject the proporitonal odds assumption, and
if they do show strong evidence against the proportional odds
assumption you should probably be worried anyhow.

o You can use other methods for dealing with ordinal dependent
variables that are not surrounded by these ingrained practices, for
instance the stereotyped ordered logit (-slogit- in Stata). This is a
cheat, but if it gets you around the referees...

-- Maarten

Raftery, Adrian E. (1995).  Bayesian model selection in social research
(with Discussion). Sociological Methodology, 25, 111-196.



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