# st: Re: Ordered probit: how to test normality of the residuals

 From Maarten buis <[email protected]> To [email protected] Subject st: Re: Ordered probit: how to test normality of the residuals Date Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:34:39 +0100 (BST)

```--Kate wrote:
> How can I test the normality of the residuals after the ordered
> probit model? Is there any command to run LM-test FOR NORMALITY?..

Tests for normality are difficult enough when we actually have the
variables that is supposed to be normal. What you are proposing is a
test on a latent (unobserved) variable. I am sure someone has at
sometime invented such a test, but I have severe doubts about the power
of such a test. Always remember that whatever Stata spits out at you is
never going to be any better than whatever you have given Stata to
begin with, and in this case that is ordinal data + some assumptions of
how that data was created.

Moreover, there are more important assumptions to test, for instance
the linearity of the effect of you explanatory variables. One graph I
like to look at is the graph below. These are pseudo-residuals in the
sense that they use the original scaling of the dependent variable,
which defies the very purpose of -oprobit- (the dependent variable is
ordinal and the scaling is unknown), but if you keep that in mind I

*------------------------ begin example --------------------
sysuse auto, clear
recode rep78 1=2

oprobit rep78 mpg foreign

predict pnosq*
gen yhatnosq = 0
local i = 0
levelsof rep78
foreach l in `r(levels)' {
replace yhatnosq = yhatnosq + pnosq`i++'*`l'
}
gen residnosq = rep78 - yhatnosq

gen mpgsq = mpg^2
oprobit rep78 mpg mpgsq foreign
predict psq*
levelsof rep78
gen yhatsq = 0
local i = 0
foreach l in `r(levels)' {
replace yhatsq = yhatsq + psq`i++'*`l'
}
gen residsq = rep78 - yhatsq

twoway scatter residnosq mpg ||                 /*
*/ scatter residsq mpg   ||                 /*
*/ lowess residnosq mpg,                    /*
*/ clpattern(shortdash)  ||                 /*
*/ lowess residsq mpg,                      /*
*/ clpattern(longdash)                      /*
*/ yline(0)                                 /*
*/ ytitle("reisduals")                      /*
*/ title("pseudo-residuals for models with" /*
*/ "and without squared mpg")         /*
*/ legend(order(1 "no square"               /*
*/ 2 "square"                  /*
*/ - " " "smoothed"            /*
*/ 3 "no square"               /*
*/ 4 "square"))
*------------------------ end example ------------------------
(For more on how to use examples I sent to the Statalist, see
http://home.fsw.vu.nl/m.buis/stata/exampleFAQ.html )

Hope this helps,
Maarten

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Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
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