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Re: st: linux vs windows for Stata


From   SamL <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st: linux vs windows for Stata
Date   Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:46:34 -0700 (PDT)

Just for truth in advertising, I also do not use MSWord so I cannot say
how that program would treat any of the file types to which one can
convert an eps file.  It may be necessary to do trial and error to reach
some optimum, given the many file types available.

Also, I never try to edit graphics files (based on data) in wordprocessing
packages.  No particular reason, I just tend to re-make the file in stata
if I need to change something, and then re-import it.  So, I cannot say
what file types might be editable in what wordprocessing packages, as
I've never tried to do such a thing.

Finally, I have had no trouble bringing jpg files into WP, and they seem
to scale fine.  It comes in as a very small postage-stamp sized graph, but
one can use the mouse to re-size the image.  I am not regarding this
re-sizing as editiing, but some might, so, yes, I am able to do that with
a jpg file (in WordPerfect).  Maybe it is my poor (four) eyes, but the
graphs seem fine to me (and to my publications editors as well).

I fear further discussion on my part will take me far afield of stata into
the ins and outs of wordprocessing packages, violating my own vision of
what I should bring to statalist.  :-)  So, I'll stop now.  Hope this
helps.

Thanks.
Sam

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Henrik Stovring wrote:

> Not being a Windows user myself, and neither using MS Word - I am a
> Linux/Latex die-hard fan - I must admit that I do not have personal
> experiences with problems of not having wmf/emf format for import of
> graphs in Word. I am, however, responsible for a recent transition from
> Windows Stata to Linux Stata in my department, so if anyone knows what
> alternative formats one should use for inclusion of graphs in MS Word, I
> would love to hear about them, since in my department many rely on MS
> Word for typing their papers. I am told that using jpg will not allow
> editing of the graph from within Word, and further since it is not
> vector-based, it doesn't scale that well(?).
>
> So summing up: If anyone has first hand experience with importing graphs
> from Linux/Unix Stata into MS Word please share them with me (and the
> remaining Stata community...).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Henrik
>
> SamL wrote:
>
> >Henrik Stovring indicates that it is impossible to export graphics files
> >in wmf/emf format in the linux version of stata.  I am assuming one reason
> >to want to do that is to insert a graphics file into a word processed
> >document.  There may be other reasons as well.
> >
> >Given my assumption, though, it is important to point out that with the
> >linux version of stata one can export files in the eps format, and there
> >is a linux (unix?) program called convert that I use to convert many
> >different types of graphics files from one format to another.
> >Specifically, it can convert eps files to jpg files which can be inserted
> >into some (many? all?) word processing (editing?)  programs.  So, if the
> >reason to have wmf/emf format is to insert into an editor, the ability to
> >insert into an editor does not require obtaining a windows version of
> >stata.
> >
> >Here is a list of some of the file types it can convert (r means it can
> >read the format, w means it can write the format, + means it can use
> >multi-images, apologies for any errors (mostly of omission)):
> >
> >        o  APP1      *rw- Photoshop resource format
> >        o  ART       *r-- PF1: 1st Publisher
> >        o  AVI       *r-- Audio/Visual Interleaved
> >        o  AVS       *rw+ AVS X image
> >        o  BIE       *rw- Joint Bi-level Image experts Group
> >                          interchange format
> >        o  BMP       *rw+ Microsoft Windows bitmap image
> >        o  DCM       *r-- Digital Imaging and Communications in
> >                           Medicine image
> >        o  DCX       *rw+ ZSoft IBM PC multi-page Paintbrush
> >        o  DIB       *rw+ Microsoft Windows bitmap image
> >        o  DPS       *r-- Display Postscript
> >        o  DPX       *r-- Digital Moving Picture Exchange
> >        o  EPDF      *rw- Encapsulated Portable Document Format
> >        o  EPI       *rw- Adobe Encapsulated PostScript
> >                          Interchange format
> >        o  EPS       *rw- Adobe Encapsulated PostScript
> >        o  EPS2      *-w- Adobe Level II Encapsulated PostScript
> >        o  EPS3      *-w- Adobe Level III Encapsulated PostScript
> >        o  EPSF      *rw- Adobe Encapsulated PostScript
> >        o  EPSI      *rw- Adobe Encapsulated PostScript
> >                          Interchange format
> >        o  EPT       *rw- Adobe Encapsulated PostScript with TIFF
> >                          preview
> >        o  FAX       *rw+ Group 3 FAX
> >        o  FITS      *rw- Flexible Image Transport System
> >        o  FPX       *rw- FlashPix Format
> >        o  G3        *rw- Group 3 FAX
> >        o  GIF       *rw+ CompuServe graphics interchange format
> >        o  GIF87     *rw- CompuServe graphics interchange format
> >                          (version 87a)
> >        o  HDF       -rw+ Hierarchical Data Format
> >        o  HTM       *-w- Hypertext Markup Language and a
> >                          client-side image map
> >        o  HTML      *-w- Hypertext Markup Language and a
> >                          client-side image map
> >        o  ICB       *rw+ Truevision Targa image
> >        o  IPTC      *rw- IPTC Newsphoto
> >        o  JBG       *rw+ Joint Bi-level Image experts Group
> >                          interchange format
> >        o  JBIG      *rw+ Joint Bi-level Image experts Group
> >                          interchange format
> >        o  JP2       *rw- JPEG-2000 JP2 File Format Syntax
> >        o  JPC       *rw- JPEG-2000 Code Stream Syntax
> >        o  JPEG      *rw- Joint Photographic Experts Group
> >                          JFIF format
> >        o  JPG       *rw- Joint Photographic Experts Group
> >        o  M2V       *rw+ MPEG-2 Video Stream
> >        o  MAT       *-w+ MATLAB image format
> >        o  MATTE     *-w+ MATTE format
> >        o  MIFF      *rw+ Magick image format
> >        o  MNG       *rw+ Multiple-image Network Graphics
> >        o  MPC       -rw- Magick Persistent Cache image format
> >        o  MPEG      *rw+ MPEG-1 Video Stream
> >        o  MPG       *rw+ MPEG-1 Video Stream
> >        o  MTV       *rw+ MTV Raytracing image format
> >        o  MVG       *rw- Magick Vector Graphics
> >       o  PALM      *rw- Palm Pixmap format
> >        o   PBM        *rw+  Portable  bitmap  format  (black and
> >       white)
> >        o  PCT       *rw- Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT
> >        o  PCX       *rw- ZSoft IBM PC Paintbrush
> >        o  PDB       *r-- Pilot Image Format
> >        o  PDF       *rw+ Portable Document Format
> >        o  PGM       *rw+ Portable graymap format (gray scale)
> >         o  PICT      *rw- Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT
> >        o  PIX       *r-- Alias/Wavefront RLE image format
> >        o  PNG       *rw- Portable Network Graphics
> >        o  PNM       *rw+ Portable anymap
> >        o  PPM       *rw+ Portable pixmap format (color)
> >        o  PS        *rw+ Adobe PostScript
> >        o  PS2       *-w+ Adobe Level II PostScript
> >        o  PS3       *-w+ Adobe Level III PostScript
> >        o  PSD       *rw- Adobe Photoshop bitmap
> >        o  PTIF      *rw- Pyramid encoded TIFF
> >        o  PWP       *r-- Seattle Film Works
> >        o  RAS       *rw+ SUN Rasterfile
> >        o  RLA       *r-- Alias/Wavefront image
> >        o  RLE       *r-- Utah Run length encoded image
> >        o  ROSE      *rw- 70x46 Truecolor test image
> >        o  SFW       *r-- Seattle Film Works
> >        o  SGI       *rw+ Irix RGB image
> >        o  SHTML     *-w- Hypertext Markup Language and a
> >                          client-side image map
> >        o  STEGANO   *r-- Steganographic image
> >        o  SUN       *rw+ SUN Rasterfile
> >        o  SVG       *rw+ Scalable Vector Gaphics
> >       o  TEXT      *rw+ Raw text
> >        o  TGA       *rw+ Truevision Targa image
> >        o  TIF       *rw+ Tagged Image File Format
> >        o  TIFF      *rw+ Tagged Image File Format
> >        o  TILE      *r-- Tile image with a texture
> >        o  TIM       *r-- PSX TIM
> >        o  TXT       *rw+ Raw text
> >        o  VDA       *rw+ Truevision Targa image
> >        o  VICAR     *rw- VICAR rasterfile format
> >        o  VIFF      *rw+ Khoros Visualization image
> >        o  VST       *rw+ Truevision Targa image
> >        o  WBMP      *rw- Wireless Bitmap (level 0) image
> >        o  WMF       *r-- Windows Metafile
> >        o  WPG       *r-- Word Perfect Graphics
> >        o  X         *rw- X Image
> >
> >
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >Sam
> >
> >On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Henrik Stovring wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>We are currently running Stata on Linux at my department with Windows
> >>access through ssh using the X-Windows application in Cygwin
> >>(x.cygwin.com). It allows you to do the things you asked for (remember
> >>to enable compression, though, for decent response times even on fast
> >>networks). The only drawback, I am aware of, is the lacking export of
> >>graphs in wmf/emf format in the linux version of Stata. The advantage,
> >>however, is that you can run 64-bit stata on a relatively cheap AMD-64
> >>PC, which is *very* fast in my experience.
> >>
> >>Please feel free to contact me for further details.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>
> >>Henrik
> >>
> >>Guillaume Frechette wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dear Statalisters: I have to buy a new Stata and I hesitate between
> >>>buying one to run on linux or windows. The last time I used Stata on
> >>>Unix (that was many years ago), the thing I missed was the ability to
> >>>see graphs immediately and to browse through the data in the data
> >>>viewer. Can you now do those things in the linux version (when
> >>>accessed remotely from a pc running windows)?
> >>>
> >>>Any other point of view, comments or opinion comparing the two are
> >>>welcome.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>>g
> >>>
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