# Re: st: Questions on -mlogit-

 From "Clive Nicholas" <[email protected]> To [email protected] Subject Re: st: Questions on -mlogit- Date Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:55:15 -0000 (GMT)

```Ada Ma wrote:

> If your base category is Labour (i.e. Labour=0) then the Conservatives are
> MORE
> likely to win if celtic==1, and to calculate the the probability of con==1
> given
> that celtic==1 (and ignoring everything else), the function you should use
> is:
>
> exp(1.96e-17)/(1+exp(1.96e-17))
>
> Not 1/1.96e-17 as you have used.  I don't know anything about the rest of

That would be the calculation I would use if the coefficient was the log
of the odds. But, as I explained in my post, that coefficient _is_ the
odds-ratio, so there's no need to exponentiate it!

Moreover, the 'Celtic' coefficient in the Con vs. Lab model is as I
asserted it to be. Tory candidates are significantly _less_ likely to win
Scottish and Welsh by-elections than Labour ones: saying anything else
flies in the face of the electoral evidence we have (and not just in
by-elections). Notice that the z score on the odds ratio is _negative_:

> -----------------------------------------------------
>              |               Robust
>        bewin |        RRR   Std. Err.      z    P>|z|
> -------------+---------------------------------------
> con          |
>       celtic |   1.96e-17   2.21e-17   -34.21   0.000

and naturally so, since the model - rightly - estimates that by-elections
held in Scotland and Wales reduces the odds of a Tory victory there (at
least over the 1975-2000 period) to be comprehensively less than 1,
relative to Labour. (Remember: even odds = [P=.5].)

So, in effect, I'm still searching for an answer to my first question: why
is this odds-ratio so bizarrely low?

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