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Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com> |

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Re: st: how to find the integral for a portion of a normal distribution. |

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Tue, 4 May 2010 18:14:45 -0400 |

" The Weibull is also easy to simulate because there is a closed-form version of the cumulative probability distribution." I should have said "because the cumulative probability distribution is easy to invert." The closed form of the cumulative probability distribution is important because you want to estimate probabilities. Steve On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com> wrote: > Buzz Burhans > My question here, technicalities aside, is why you think that the > normal distribution is a good fit to milk yields. A earlier post in > the thread already warned that the normal distribution with your > parameters has substantial probability below zero. This publication, > for what it's worth-I haven't read it, found a modified Weibull > distribution to be a good fit to milk > yields.((http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8046070) ) If you have > prior data, then -kdensity- will overlay the best fitting Normal on > top of a nonparametric estimated, and there are other diagnostic plots > in Stata (-help diagnostic plots-) You can fit parameters to the > Weibull and related distributions with -streg-. The Weibull is also > easy to simulate because there is a closed-form version of the > cumulative probability distribution. > Steve > > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Brian P. Poi <bpoi@stata.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 4 May 2010, >> >>> >>> Suppose I have an intervention applied to cows with a demonstrated mean >>> milk >>> yield response of +2.05 liters, sd 1.74. >>> >>> Suppose I am interested a 1 liter cut point. I know how to find the >>> proportion of responses at or below the 1 liter response; and the >>> proportion >>> of responses at or above the one liter response. This is what you are >>> doing >>> here, or it can be done with a z score. >>> >>> My question is, if the response is normally distributed, given n cows, how >>> many total liters were included or accumulated in the only responses below >>> 1 >>> liter, and how many total liters were accumulated in only the responses at >>> or above 1 liter. (Negative responses are possible). My interest is in >>> the >>> total liters, not the fraction of the total population either above or >>> below >>> the cutpoint. >>> >> >> Assuming I understand the question correctly, I think this does what you >> want. >> >> For a random variable distributed N(mu, sigma), >> >> E[X | X < 1] = mu + sigma*lambda(alpha) >> >> where >> >> alpha = (1 - mu) / sigma >> lambda(alpha) = -phi(alpha) / Phi(alpha) >> >> Given a sample of size n, the number of observations less than 1 is >> >> numltone = n*Phi(alpha) >> >> so the total amount of milk given that X < 1 is >> >> milk = numltone*E[X | X < 1] >> >> In Stata, >> >> . clear all >> . set mem 200m >> (204800k) >> . set seed 1 >> . drawnorm x, means(2.05) sds(1.74) n(10000000) clear >> (obs 10000000) >> . summ x if x < 1, mean >> . di r(sum) >> -188292.37 >> >> . scalar alpha = (1 - 2.05) / 1.74 >> . scalar lambda = -1*normalden(alpha) / normal(alpha) >> . scalar condmean = 2.05 + 1.74*lambda >> . scalar numltone = 10000000*normal(alpha) >> . scalar condtotal = condmean*numltone >> . di condtotal >> -187432.23 >> >> Similarly, >> >> E[X | X > 1] = mu + sigma*lambda'(alpha) >> >> where >> >> lambda' = phi(alpha) / (1 - Phi(alpha)) >> >> In Stata, >> >> . scalar lambda2 = normalden(alpha) / (1 - normal(alpha)) >> . scalar condmean2 = 2.05 + 1.74*lambda2 >> . scalar condtotal2 = condmean2*(10000000 - numltone) >> . di condtotal2 >> 20687432 >> >> . sum x if x > 1, mean >> . di r(sum) >> 20685854 >> >> >> -- Brian Poi >> -- bpoi@stata.com >> * >> * For searches and help try: >> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ >> > > > > -- > Steven Samuels > sjsamuels@gmail.com > 18 Cantine's Island > Saugerties NY 12477 > USA > Voice: 845-246-0774 > Fax: 206-202-4783 > -- Steven Samuels sjsamuels@gmail.com 18 Cantine's Island Saugerties NY 12477 USA Voice: 845-246-0774 Fax: 206-202-4783 * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

**References**:**RE: st: how to find the integral for a portion of a normal distribution.***From:*"Buzz Burhans" <buzzb3@earthlink.net>

**RE: st: how to find the integral for a portion of a normal distribution.***From:*"Brian P. Poi" <bpoi@stata.com>

**Re: st: how to find the integral for a portion of a normal distribution.***From:*Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com>

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