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Re: st: re: Stata license rules


From   Alan Acock <acock@mac.com>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: re: Stata license rules
Date   Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:03:51 -0700

Kit mentions using Stata on a server. We have Stata and SPSS on a server. The SPSS is vastly more expensive on the server. Some faculty prefer using Stata on the server to having it on their own machine because of the regular backup on the server. In my experience using Stata on Macs, PCs, and the Server, and using IC, SE, and MP versions, there is little difference in performance for 90%+ of my own applications. The server price Stata offers is really amazing compared to SPSS. If you had the SE on the server, you could work with larger datasets and save what you will actually use to your PC running IC there. We have student labs where they log into the server and don't have Stata on the lap PCs.

--Alan Acock

On Oct 16, 2009, at Fri Oct 510:37 , Alan Neustadtl wrote:

Kit makes some great points and I think has some solutions that could
work.  First, for $180 the department is willing to provide Stata SE
for the students, many of whom work with large datasets, for the
convenience of accessing a larger number of variables than available
in IC.  I am in the same situation as the students where I appreciate
the convenience of the larger Stata, but unlike the students I may
have to settle for less.  I started the discussion in the Department
last summer as Stata 11 was released but this is still being played
out in different committee meetings over the next months.

Best,
Alan


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Kit Baum <baum@bc.edu> wrote:
<>
Alan said

Reasonably enough, I am not eligible for the $180 student lab license
to use on my office and home computers.  However, as a faculty member
at the University of Maryland I am eligible for a discounted license
for Stata through their GradPlan.  I have used this to purchase my
past copies of Stata.  Currently the cost of a Stata SE license
through the GradPlan for me is about $425.

The institutional specific glitch I have is that my department is
unwilling to spend $425 for a license for my use.  So, it is not that
Stata does not provide an educational discount (they do and it is
large, but that my University is unwilling to pay that amount for me
to have the same version as the students for teaching purposes.  This
has led to some discussion of alternative, less expensive, statistical
software applications.


We have dealt with this issue at BC (which is a GradPlan site) by providing Stata/SE (or /MP) only to faculty members who have a real need for Stata/SE.
(Do your students really have Stata/SE in their lab? Our PhD students
don't--they use Stata/IC). Stata/IC is quite adequate for many faculty members' needs, and if they need to use a larger dataset, we have Stata/SE and Stata/MP available on servers that can be used to create a subset of the dataset usable in Stata/IC (as can Stat/Transfer). The Stata/IC faculty license is no more than the lab license price you quote. It may well be that even that cost per seat is a problem budgetwise, but it's usually easier to get someone to part with $1x than with $2.4x. It would be nice if everyone could have the snazziest version of Stata on their desk, but many people don't really need it to do what they are trying to do (although I still am green with envy after hearing a conference presentation where someone stated
they had Stata/MP for 16 cores handy...)

Kit Baum   |   Boston College Economics & DIW Berlin   |


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