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Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com> |

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Re: st: gllamm with pweights |

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Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:53:34 -0500 |

Can you contact the data provider to get the probability weights for the higher level units? Most weight scaling procedures look to me like at attempt to guess the color of somebody's dress on a black-and-white picture. Also, I understand that this is interesting substantively, but I feel uneasy specifying the random effects at the level higher than the PSU level. I've seen that done though if those higher levels correspond to strata (although typically strata are understood as fixed rather than random effects). You said the design is stratified; where was stratification applied? My guess would be that your strata are the state by urban/rural cells, which are your urstate factors. It looks to me that at least nominally the model for the design would be to have the higher level random effects correspond to these strata. But in your application, as Steve S noted, they look kinda weird, and states may indeed be conceptually better units to think of. As I said, you would probably want to use -geq(rural)- or something like that to get the main effect of the urban/rural location. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Kanter, Rebecca<rkanter@jhsph.edu> wrote: > Hi Steve and list, > > The original survey design is a multi-stage stratified design. The PSU is essentially the equivalent of a U.S. census tract (the probability that one of these tracts was selected was proportional to the number of households within it and the number of tracts selected corresponded to the sample size in the strata within the state) ...from which households are selected (with probability proportional to size). For each census tract selected six "blocks" are selected with probability proportional to the number of houses in each block; within each chosen block 6 households are selected via systematic random sampling and then individuals within the household via simple random sampling. -- Stas Kolenikov, also found at http://stas.kolenikov.name Small print: I use this email account for mailing lists only. * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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