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st: RE: rank ordered twoway graph

From   "Shehzad Ali" <>
To   <>
Subject   st: RE: rank ordered twoway graph
Date   Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:19:01 +0100

Thanks, Nick. Your email nicely summarises the available solutions. Sorry
for being adamant to get a one line solution. 

Thanks again for your help.


-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Nick Cox
Sent: 13 June 2008 10:37
Subject: st: RE: RE: RE: rank ordered twoway graph

Short answer: No, it is not possible. But other solutions are easy. 

For those following along, -qplot- is a program downloadable from the
Stata website given its publication in the Stata Journal. -search qplot-
for locations. 

-qplot- is best thought of as a considerable generalisation of the
official -quantile- command (with one cosmetic exception: -qplot- does
not show the tilted reference line that is a -quantile- default).
-qplot- plots ordered or sorted values (with some flexibility about how
sorted) versus cumulative fraction or rank (ditto), or indeed, via the
-xvariable()- option, versus any specified variable.

Shehzad's problem is different. Shehzad wants to plot something else
versus the ranks of (e.g.) income. This is not among the possibilities
of -qplot- at present. It might be accommodated by adding a
-yvariable()- option, but I am reluctant to do that. There is a fine
line between adding another feature that somebody might want and making
a program yet more complicated to use and understand, and indeed there
is, in this case, a risk of muddying the purpose of the program. 

As previously implied, Shehzad's solution should be at worst two lines'
worth. Apart from what you can with -glcurve- (-findit- for locations),
there is a more direct solution: 

egen rank = rank(income) 
twoway <whatever> <somethingelse> rank 

There is much scope for modifying that simple recipe. For example, the
usual convention is that the richest person is #1, and so forth, and
that is achievable in a flash: 

egen rank = rank(-income)

Further, -egen, rank()- has options. Mapping to variously defined
cumulative fractions is also a step away. There is an FAQ on that: 

FAQ     . . . . . . . . . . Calculating percentile ranks or plotting
        7/02    How can I calculate percentile ranks?
                How can I calculate plotting positions?

Shehzad seems to be hankering after a one-line alternative to this
two-line solution. 
That's achievable with some programming, but as I said earlier I don't
think it exists at present. 


Shehzad Ali

Thanks, Nick. This is a very useful command to know. Now my question is:
using qplot I want to generate a graph of y-variable which is rank
by x-variable (obviously different from Pen's parade). If I used the
- xvariable - in - qplot -, it produces an x-axis over the entire range
of x
variable but I am interested only in x-rank to sort my y-var. Is it
to do this using qplot?

Nick Cox

You can make this possible in one line by writing a wrapper for those
commands, but I am not aware of any way to do that which is already
available. -qplot- (-search- for locations) allows plots of income
versus income rank, including a kind of graph which income people
associate with Jan Pen (although the same idea goes back much earlier). 

Shehzad Ali

I want to create a twoway graph (like spike or dropline) where the
is a rank variable (based on say income) and y-axis is the other
of interest (say health_pay). A simple command - twoway spike health_pay

income - spread the x-axis over the whole range of income but I am 
interested in income rank and not income itself.

I know one way to do it is to generate income rank variable using -
- and then plotting the rank_var against health_pay but I was wondering
there was a direct method.

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