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Matthew Sydes <Matthew.Sydes@ctu.mrc.ac.uk> |

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RE: st: At risk table [for Kaplan Meier plots] |

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Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:11:19 +0100 |

Can I please echo Horea's concern about this limitation in Stata and have this added this to the Stata wishlist? I had rather hoped that this particular issue would have been resolved for Stata 9. I agree that -stsatrisk- is a useful package which I use often, but it is limited in its presentation and its graphs do need manual manipulation before they can be used more formally. Working in clinical trials in cancer, Kaplan-Meier plots are our bread and butter. Yours hopefully, Matt ================================ Matthew Sydes Senior Medical Statistician T: 020 7670 4798 (direct) T: 020 7670 4700 (switchboard) F: 020 7670 4814/5 E: matthew.sydes@ctu.mrc.ac.uk W: www.ctu.mrc.ac.uk Cancer Group MRC Clinical Trials Unit 222 Euston Rd London NW1 2DA UK ================================ -----Original Message----- From: Nick Cox [mailto:n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk] Sent: 06 June 2005 14:36 To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Subject: RE: st: At risk table OK; sorry I missed that. Nick n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu > [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu]On Behalf Of Horea Feier > Sent: 06 June 2005 13:49 > To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: st: At risk table > > > Yes, I am aware of -stsatrisk- (please see my first email). > > However, it places by default the values of the subjects at risk > inside the graphregion. > > I was looking for a way to place them instead underneath the graph, > in a table, as some journals (eg New England Journal of Medicine) > require. > > > On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Nick Cox wrote: > > > On the contrary, Svend referred to -stsatrisk-. See his > > email again. > > > > Nick > > n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk > > > > Horea Feier > > > > > >> Thank you for your example script...It shows that you can > insert the > >> table, more or less "by hand", but it works. > >> > >> In fact I was looking for some program which could create > this table > >> automatically, so to say, and be able to place it in a specified > >> position. > >> > >> I understand that you are not aware of such a > contributed program? > >> > >> Thanks for your great example anyway, Horea > >> > >> > >> On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Svend Juul wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Horea asked how to display a number at risk table below a Kaplan- > >>> Meier graph. > >>> > >>> The is the intent of -stsatrisk-, but the author correctly warns > >>> that it does not always work well. > >>> > >>> It can be done, however, but not easily. Start with running - > >>> stsatrisk- to get the numbers right. Below I show an example of > >>> constructing the table. It works, but it required quite a bit of > >>> trial and error. I used -scheme lean1- putting the legend to the > >>> right of the plot area, to avoid conflict between legend > and table. > >>> > >>> Hope this helps > >>> Svend > >>> ---------------------------------------------------- > >>> set scheme lean1 > >>> sts graph /// > >>> , /// > >>> by(screengr) per(1000) /// > >>> fail /// > >>> clpattern(- l) /// > >>> title("") /// > >>> graphregion(margin(b+6)) /// > >>> plotregion(margin(l=0 b=0)) /// > >>> xtitle(Months of follow-up) /// > >>> ytitle("Cumulated AAA mortality per 1000") /// > >>> xscale(range(0 60)) /// > >>> xlabel(0(12)60) /// > >>> ylabel(0(1)5 , format(%1.0f) nogrid) /// > >>> legend(label(1 "Controls") label(2 "Invited")) /// > >>> text(-0.93 -5 "Invited" , size(*0.8) place(w)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 -5 "Controls" , size(*0.8) place(w)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 0 "6333" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 0 "6306" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 12 "6172" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 12 "6120" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 24 "5499" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 24 "5452" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 36 "4971" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 36 "4905" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 48 "4305" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 48 "4286" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-0.93 60 "3644" , size(*0.8)) /// > >>> text(-1.2 60 "3657" , size(*0.8)) > >>> ----------------------------------------------------- > >>> > > > > * > > * For searches and help try: > > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html > > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > > > > > > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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