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Re: st: xtivreg question - when is small not small?


From   "Mark Schaffer" <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st: xtivreg question - when is small not small?
Date   Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:01:08 +0100

Hi everybody.  Let me phrase my question a little more precisely.

In a fixed effects estimation using a balanced panel, the usual 
estimate of the error variance is RSS * 1/(NT-N-k), where N is the 
number of observational units, T is the number of periods, and k is 
the number of regressors aside from the fixed effects.  The 
subtraction of N in the denominator reflects the fact that the N 
fixed effects are being estimated (implicitly or explicitly).

The subtraction of k is a standard finite sample adjustment.  My 
expectation with xtivreg would have been that -small- would use

1/(NT-N-k)

and report t stats, and the default behaviour of xtivreg would be to 
use

1/(NT-N)

and report z stats.  In fact, 1/(NT-N-k) seems to be used for both, 
which is why the same standard errors appear regardless of whether or 
not -small- is specified.

This strikes me as odd.  Or am I missing something?

--Mark


To:             	Statalist <[email protected]>
Subject:        	st: xtivreg question - when is small not small?
Date sent:      	Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:30:53 +0100 (BST)
From:           	Mark Schaffer <[email protected]>
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> Hi all.  I've just encountered something peculiar about xtivreg (v7 and
> v8.2).  According to the manuals and help file,
> 
> "small specifies that t statistics should be reported instead of Z
> statistics and F statistics instead of chi-squared statistics."
> 
> The peculiar thing is that the t statistics and standard errors are
> numerically identical to the z statistics and SEs.  Using the manual dataset,
> 
> . xtivreg ln_w age* not_smsa (tenure = union south) , fe i(idcode)
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
>      ln_wage |      Coef.   Std. Err.      z    P>|z|
> -------------+---------------------------------------
>       tenure |   .2452291   .0386354     6.35   0.000
> 
> . xtivreg ln_w age* not_smsa (tenure = union south) , fe i(idcode) small
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
>      ln_wage |      Coef.   Std. Err.      t    P>|t|
> -------------+---------------------------------------
>       tenure |   .2452291   .0386354     6.35   0.000
> 
> I had thought that there would be an additional degrees-of-freedom
> adjustment with the -small- option, but apparently not - the only difference
> is that the column heading is "t" instead of "z".  Anybody have any idea why?
> 
> --Mark
> 
> Prof. Mark Schaffer
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> Department of Economics
> School of Management & Languages
> Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh EH14 4AS
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