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Re: st: Bootstrapping and predicted probabilities

From   Jeph Herrin <>
Subject   Re: st: Bootstrapping and predicted probabilities
Date   Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:38:30 -0400

My first thought is that you should calculate the predicted and expected from the same model, using -xtmelogit-; this is
done by calculating the fitted values with and without the random effects. This is, for example, how Medicare itself does it when calculating predicted and expected rates for hospitals.

My second thought is that if you do have a reason to use -logit- to get the predicted values, then why not use the predicted SEs to construct the CI? I usually do this by simulating p ~ N(xb,SE[xb]) for each observation, calculating the inverse logit, and then using the order statistics (this is called parametric bootstrapping, I think).

But to answer your specific question - the only thing you are collecting from your bootstrap is -e(p)-, which is the P-value for the chi2 test for the overall model. I think to do what you want (or what you think you want) you can't use -bootstrap-, but will need to write your own bootstrap code - the crudest version being one which saves the predictions from each sample and which you piece together later.

for b=1/100 {
 u data, clear
 logit transfer x1 x2 x3
 predict p_pred_`b'
 keep patientid p_pred_`b'
 save sample`b'

hope this helps,

On 4/11/2013 7:48 AM, Mohan, Deepika wrote:
Hello, I am trying to figure out how to generate confidence intervals around predicted probabilities at the patient
level, using bootstrapping. I am using Stata 12.0 on Windows.

I have a Medicare dataset which includes patient-level data, as well as hospital identifiers. The objective is to
assess hospital-level variation in the management of trauma patients.

I have calculated the expected probability of the outcome (transfer) for each patient:

. logit transfer x1 x2 x3 (where x are patient-level injury characteristics)
. predict p_exp,

As well as the predicted probability of the outcome (transfer) for each patient:

. xtmelogit transfer x1 x2 x3 || hospital_id:
. predict p_pred, mu

I am now trying to develop confidence intervals around those probabilities, and thought to use the bootstrap command.
For example,

bootstrap e(p), reps(10) saving(mydata): logit transfer x1 x2 x3

However, when I examine the saved data, what I see is a single predicted probability for each repetition and not 10
predicted probabilities for each individual. In other words, this command seems to be giving me confidence intervals
around the mean predicted probability rather than the predicted probability for the individual patient. Is there some
way to do this? I should also add that I don't have the ability to upload user programs like prvalue, since my
version of stata is run on a secure desktop (no web-access).

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks, Deepika Mohan MD MPH University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15261

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