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Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com> |

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Subject |
Re: st: Treatment of missing values in surveys in Stata (subpop) |

Date |
Fri, 8 Mar 2013 19:15:57 -0500 |

Ángel: Rereading, I see that you asked about using the subpop() option when there are missing values. Leaving a particular question unanswered could happen for many reasons, including fatigue, haste, interviewer error, and data entry mistakes. So again, the theory of the subpopulation correction does not apply. You didn't need to recode a missing numerical value to something like 999 in order to use it. Such 999 coding is used only for data forms these days. . svy, subpop( if var < .) would do the job. This takes care of extended missing values, like .a, since in Stata they order as: . , .a , .b ,..., .z Multiple imputation is the approach for handling missing values. Steve Ángel: The theory of subpopulation corrections does not apply to non-response. A subpopulation is a subset of the population tht can be defined in advance: (e.g. males, ages 30-40, living in rural areas). The number selected by a sample will be random. For example, suppose a population of N members contains a subpopulation of M members. A SRS of size n taken. You should be able work out the exact probability that the sample will contain exactly k members of the subpopulation. The theory of the subpopulation correction is an extension of this, and can be found in any good text. In contrast, "responder" is not a characteristic, like gender, that is known in advance. It is defined only in relation to the particular sample design and protocol. For identical designs, better protocols can increase response rates. Thus, sampling theory alone cannot describe the numbers of responders and, consequently, the subpopulation correction is not applicable. Steve sjsamuels@gmail.com On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Ángel Rodríguez Laso wrote: Dear Statalisters, I have found two recommended procedures for dealing with individuals with missing items ('normal' missing answers like 'DK/DA' or equipment failure) when analysing surveys with Stata: 1) One is based on the recommendation that, unless there is a very strong reason to do otherwise, whenever you analyse a group of individuals in a survey with Stata, you have to use subpop. (See for example: http://www.stata.com/meeting/mexico10/mex10sug_canette.pdf). Under this perspective, those with valid values would be a subpopulation. From my point of view, this means that in order to prevent Stata from dropping them from the calculation of standard errors, missing codes (".") should be recoded to a numerical value (like 999) and then a command issued this way: svy, subpop(if var<999): command var 2) Nevertheless, most of the information I've read does not make any statement about this, what implicitly means that missing codes don't need to be recoded. I've even found this piece of advice (http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2012-09/msg01028.html): 'I've never seen a recommendation to consider observations with non-missing values as a subpopulation' I wonder if anyone could throw some ligth on this topic. Thank you very much. Angel Rodriguez-Laso * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/ * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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