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RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

From   "Lachenbruch, Peter" <>
To   "''" <>
Subject   RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
Date   Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:22:14 -0700

One other item that has not been mentioned:  if a new technique has been developed, it is not terribly useful, nor likely to be tried until there is an implementation in a software package.  People are careful about using user-written software that requires a complete program.  They will work with a routine that is implemented in R or Stata, etc.  The logical inconsistency is that this seemingly has the same issues of validation and accuracy in either case.
In the early days of GEE models, the routine was available only on a routine for SAS and it took a few years for it to be translated/developed in other packages.  With that, the issues of validation became relevant.


Peter A. Lachenbruch
Department of Public Health
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97330
Phone: 541-737-3832
FAX: 541-737-4001

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Seed, Paul
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: RE: st: AW: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

>On 24 Meith 2010, at 18:37, Nick Winter wrote:

>> At the risk of provoking flames - can someone articulate the reason
>> *for* citing the statistical software used in a book or article,
>> especially in the case where only very standard statistical tools are
>> used?  We don't, for example, generally cite the word processor,
>> citation management software, and other computer tools used in the
>> course of our research....

>No potential for flames as far as I can see.

>As a reviewer I encourage the practice so that people know the  
>capabilities of software, and if they are undertaking a similar study,  
>they may be guided in their choice of software for analysis.

As a reviewer I once noticed that a particular article could 
be improved using a novel method made available through an article 
in SJ.  As the authors had declared that they had used Stata, 
I could recommend its use with fair confidence that I was not asking 
the impossible.

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