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Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC

From   "Bunny," <>
Subject   Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
Date   Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:18:34 +0200

Hey everybody, Hey Walt,

as i said before i havenīt tested it to the heart, by i didnīt run into any windows application that didnīt work probably so far. The only thing i could imagine running not well are CGI applications / 3D stuff.
There are so many possibilities to run standard software like Word or Powerpoint on a MAC. The native versions are indeed getting better. I think MS Office 2003 for mac does work for all the stuff i wouldnīt use latex for. And for those who donīt like these native versions, thereīs still the windows version which is not to much to handle for a mac. hey and check out parallelsī coherence mode.
windows based clients might face little difference when watching your .ppt if they were created on a native mac version and vice versa. In general you should consider sending .pdf or breeze presentations to them if you want to make sure they see exactly the same thing.

I mean having windows as a backup is nice and sometimes necessary (when it comes to little non standard applications like tax computation by your state) but you buy a mac not because of the better processor but because of the better operating system. Even when Macs were way behind in terms of performance, i liked the workflow better because i didnīt have to worry about the OS.

In general there are so many possibilities and they are just getting better



Am 26.06.2008 um 17:07 schrieb Data Analytics Corp.:

Good morning,

I've been watching the exchange on this issue. I'm more curious right now about Phil's statement that "you can even run Linux or Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-booting) if you need to" on an Intel MAC machine. I'm thinking about buying one even though I already have a ThinkPad running Vista. I'm looking for more input about running Windows software (Stata, S-Plus, SAS primarily) on the MAC as well as creating Word and PowerPoint files on the MAC that my Window's based client can read. Any comments or suggestions?



Phil Schumm wrote:

On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Stefano Costalli wrote:
I have a non-Stata question, but I need an answer to use stata at its best!
So far I have used Stata 9.2 SE on my laptop (IBM T series), but now I have to give it back to my department and I have some doubts. I'm choosing between the new version of IBM T Series and Macbook pro. My old IBM worked very well, but I like also the Macbook pro. Unfortunately I don't have colleagues or friends who use Stata on a Mac machine. Could anyone give me some feedback? Has anyone done any comparison? Good functioning of Stata will be an essential variable in my decision..

Thanks to StataCorp, you pretty much get the same Stata experience on any OS they support. There are some minor GUI differences, of course; being primarily an OS X user, I vastly prefer the OS X version (e.g., fonts look better, interface is cleaner, etc.). But, I'll admit, there's an element of subjectivity to this.

One current issue for OS X is that the 64-bit version of Stata for OS X is not yet available. It is, however, under active development, and may be available by the end of the year (see . Thus, unless you need the 64-bit version immediately, this shouldn't be an issue.

Given that Stata is pretty much the same on every platform, the choice then really boils down to other factors. And for scientific computing, an Intel Mac is a shining star. You have the full power of Unix with a nice GUI, and, with the Intel Macs, you can even run Linux or Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual- booting) if you need to.

One more thing: unless you're a die-hard Emacs (or perhaps even vi) user, one of the single best text editors available (TextMate) is only available for the Mac. TextMate makes coding, writing, etc. a dream, and is fantastic for editing Stata do-files. Even if I didn't already prefer OS X for other reasons, I'd still consider TextMate a reason to switch.

-- Phil

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