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Re: st: RE: experience with STATA for student use


From   Alan Acock <acock@mac.com>
To   <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   Re: st: RE: experience with STATA for student use
Date   Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:22:38 -0700

We now teach Stata first. Some students work with faculty who insist they
use SPSS. The students who learn Stata first tend to have a similar response
to yours. They think SPSS is complicated, tedious, and the output is badly
designed.

Alan Acock


On 3/24/08 11:27 AM, "Verkuilen, Jay" <JVerkuilen@gc.cuny.edu>
wrote:Verkuilen, Jay

> I use it in my classes. It's great for categorical and sufficient for
> psychometrics, though the factor analysis program is missing some things
> I consider to be important (standard errors, the ability to analyze a
> covariance matrix). Unfortunately there are a lot of SPSS users and
> computer phobes (the Venn diagram of those two sets has substantial
> overlap), and the resistance from them to Stata (or anything but SPSS)
> can be... irritating.
> 
> Interestingly enough, I had one student who had pretty much forgotten
> how to use SPSS and decided when she took my class that Stata was easier
> than she remembered SPSS to be. :)
> 
> We're using it on a network install. I know a few students have bought
> their own copies.
> 
> If anyone has good, simple instructions on how to save ado files to a
> local install let me know. I'd like to pass it on to the students.
> 
> Jay
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