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st: nlogit with dummies (follow up)


From   "Rodrigo A. Alfaro" <raalfaroa@gmail.com>
To   <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   st: nlogit with dummies (follow up)
Date   Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:41:47 -0400

Bidisha,

I guess that you have missing SEs because there are too much dummy variables in your model and there are many missing observations on the dataset... right? The latter could be 'solved' by creating imputed datasets (see -ice- or http://www.multiple-imputation.com for more information). About the dummies I don't know if you are technically able to identify the model using mostly dummies. You should check your output and descriptive with someone in your school or give us more info about what happens with your data.

Rodrigo.
PS: Reply to the list, then you could have more feedback from other users.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bidisha Sayema" <lexshb@nottingham.ac.uk>
To: "Rodrigo A. Alfaro" <raalfaroa@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: st: NLOGIT

Many thanks indeed. I was able to run a nested logit but lot of my
variables came without SE or Z values. I think this is due to the use of
lot of variables (in bottom stage 20 and top stage 25 variables) where
most are dummies and there is no character specific variable. I however
dropped 1 bottom and 1 top category (with all interactions) from my
model but it seems that it was not sufficient. I used interaction of all
individual specific variables with the choices as I thought that is the
procedure to do Nlogit (to interact every variable with choices) and
also thought it would be useful to know about the sign and significance
of those coefficient. It would be appreciated if you could suggest me of
any way to capture the missing SEs.

Regards
Bidisha
*by MNL I meant Multinomial Logit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodrigo A. Alfaro [mailto:raalfaroa@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 July 2007 06:51
To: lexshb@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Fw: st: NLOGIT


Check that

(1) Your Stata is updated. -nlogit- was fixed for missing
observations.
(2) Your covariates are not all dummies. Manos suggested to get some
multiplicative variables: something like "married (dummy) times income

(in dollars)". Also, if ageskl is age times dummy-skilled and age
times dummy-unskilled why you have both?
(3) Drop the nolog in the process... maybe there is some information
that we/you want to know, such as "not concave", "variable xyz dropped

due to collinearity", etc.
(4) Run a SIMPLE version of the model... I meant really simple.
You should play with fraction of your dataset, and less covariates.

Rodrigo.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Shephard" <nshephard@gmail.com>
To: <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: st: NLOGIT


MNL == Multiple Nested Logit?

You've given us the command that you use, but not shown what the
error's Stata is reporting are.  These are likely to be informative
in helping resolve your problem.

From the FAQ
(http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/statalist.html#advice)...

   * Say exactly what you typed and exactly what Stata typed (or did)

in response. N.B. exactly! If you can, reproduce the error with one
of Stata's provided datasets or a simple concocted dataset that you
include in your posting.

     Don't send examples like this, which gives no information:
         o The command -fiddle- worked yesterday, but it is not
working today.

   or like this, which gives very little information:

       * I am using -frog-, but I just get the message "invalid
syntax".
   This example shows better style, setting aside the fact that its
answer can be found in the online help:

       * I am using Stata 9 to try to draw a plot using -scatter-.
Here is an example showing my problem with the auto data:

         . scatter mpg weight, s(p)

       I get lots of very small points. Why doesn't Stata use plus
symbols?

Neil

On 7/24/07, Bidisha Sayema <lexshb@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
Dear Statalisters,

I have done a MNL of employment status (4 choices: wage employed,
unemployed etc) with individual specific controls eg sex, education,

age, race etc and in the next stage with only the wage employed run
another MNL of occupational choices (3 choices: skilled, unskilled
etc) with controls like the first stage (not the same though). But I

also want to do a NLOGIT while incorporating all the decisions, so
there will be 6 choices in the bottom set (3 choices out of wage
employed, 3 remaining categories of employment status) along with
the first set of 4 alternatives. I constructed the data set and the
tree is running fine but I was unable to run NLOGIT and was facing
error message. Is it due to the use of common individual specific
variables in both stages? But I need to have demographic and
education variables in both stages. Any suggestion is highly
appreciated. A simple version of the model is as
follows:

nlogit choice (occchoice=ageprof ageskl ageuskl agesemp ageunemp
agenemp
/*
*/ age2prof age2skl age2uskl age2semp age2unemp age2nemp)
(empstat=ageemp2 ageemp3 ageemp4 /*
*/ age2emp2 age2emp3 age2emp4 marriedemp2 marriedemp3 marriedemp4),
group(caseno) nolog

Best Regards
Bidisha
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