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Re: st: RE: RE: Plain text Messages on Statalist

From   Seb Buechte <>
Subject   Re: st: RE: RE: Plain text Messages on Statalist
Date   Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:55:26 +0200

Dear Statalisters,

whoever would like to have an Google-email account - of which I think
that it is just the perfect account to use with email-lists (not only
because of plain text etc)- may turn herself or himself to me. I have
99 invites left and I am willing to give these out to anyone who would
want/need one.

Kind regards,

I am not too sure that one still need an invite for opening up a
Google-mail account. If invites are no longer necessary I would just
recommend Google-mail for use with email-list, especially those with
heavy traffic.

On 10/6/05, Nick Cox <> wrote:
> I don't want to misunderstand you, or anybody else,
> but in turn I am quoted out of context here. I said
> "What are you saying is that some people cannot
> produce plain text. At worse, those people will find
> that their messages cannot get through or that they get some
> flak from list members such as myself for sending
> HTML. If anyone objects to that, which is pretty mild,
> perhaps they should consider not posting
> to Statalist if they cannot comply with its
> recommendations, which are long-standing, or starting
> another list run according to their practices."
> The condition "If anyone objects to that, which is pretty mild,
> perhaps" is crucial here.
> That said, I am open to a case for changing
> FAQ to advise people how to comply with the recommendations,
> but people must suggest specific wording and
> give concrete details. I still worry that the FAQ
> is too long and too little read, and am reluctant
> to create precedents by stuffing it with extraneous
> advice.
> Nick
> Thomas Speidel
> > Nick, I think I have been misunderstood.  I wasn't objecting about the
> > requirements of Statalist.  A few months ago I had problems posting
> > messages to the list because my email client was unable to
> > produce Plain
> > Text messages.  My messages sent to Statalist simply did not
> > get posted.
> > I later found out, this was not due to the fact I was sending HTML
> > messages, but rather, with the fact messages were sent using the MIME
> > protocol.  Additionally, because my workplace uses "Outlook
> > Web Access",
> > which is a webmail implementation of MS Outlook, I had no control on
> > these options.  In Outlook Web Access, the user cannot choose to send
> > plain text messages or turn the MIME protocol off.  Since many
> > companies/institutions are moving towards webmail implementations of
> > email systems, I thought other people may experience the same
> > problems I
> > experienced.
> >
> > You are correct in saying "many people who send HTML have the facility
> > to send plain text ".  However, in my case I did not have that option.
> > I don't agree in saying that these people "should consider not posting
> > to Statalist". This is why I was suggesting a brief mention of this in
> > the FAQ.  Perhaps, we could provide suggestions to alternative methods
> > for those unable to post (opening a free account with an
> > email host that
> > can comply with Statalist's recommendations?).
> >
> > Just giving some suggestions...
> > Thomas
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- Seb F Buechte
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