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st: RE: RE: Plain text Messages on Statalist

From   "Nick Cox" <>
To   <>
Subject   st: RE: RE: Plain text Messages on Statalist
Date   Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:19:18 +0100

I don't want to misunderstand you, or anybody else,
but in turn I am quoted out of context here. I said 

"What are you saying is that some people cannot 
produce plain text. At worse, those people will find 
that their messages cannot get through or that they get some 
flak from list members such as myself for sending 
HTML. If anyone objects to that, which is pretty mild, 
perhaps they should consider not posting 
to Statalist if they cannot comply with its 
recommendations, which are long-standing, or starting
another list run according to their practices."

The condition "If anyone objects to that, which is pretty mild, 
perhaps" is crucial here. 

That said, I am open to a case for changing 
FAQ to advise people how to comply with the recommendations, 
but people must suggest specific wording and 
give concrete details. I still worry that the FAQ
is too long and too little read, and am reluctant
to create precedents by stuffing it with extraneous


Thomas Speidel
> Nick, I think I have been misunderstood.  I wasn't objecting about the
> requirements of Statalist.  A few months ago I had problems posting
> messages to the list because my email client was unable to 
> produce Plain
> Text messages.  My messages sent to Statalist simply did not 
> get posted.
> I later found out, this was not due to the fact I was sending HTML
> messages, but rather, with the fact messages were sent using the MIME
> protocol.  Additionally, because my workplace uses "Outlook 
> Web Access",
> which is a webmail implementation of MS Outlook, I had no control on
> these options.  In Outlook Web Access, the user cannot choose to send
> plain text messages or turn the MIME protocol off.  Since many
> companies/institutions are moving towards webmail implementations of
> email systems, I thought other people may experience the same 
> problems I
> experienced.  
> You are correct in saying "many people who send HTML have the facility
> to send plain text ".  However, in my case I did not have that option.
> I don't agree in saying that these people "should consider not posting
> to Statalist". This is why I was suggesting a brief mention of this in
> the FAQ.  Perhaps, we could provide suggestions to alternative methods
> for those unable to post (opening a free account with an 
> email host that
> can comply with Statalist's recommendations?).
> Just giving some suggestions...
> Thomas

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