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"Nick Cox" <n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk> |

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Subject |
st: RE: RE: Re: Weighted number of observations |

Date |
Tue, 3 Aug 2004 16:51:16 +0100 |

This was not nuanced enough. -summarize- never displays the sum, which must be elicited by -return li-. -summarize- will display the sum of the weights when asked to use aweights or iweights. Nick n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk Nick Cox > This isn't a -tabstat- issue as such. -tabstat- > just passes the buck to -summarize-, which > behaves in the same way. > > The issue is delicate, but hinges, I surmise, > on this distinction. When -summarize- (e.g.) _uses_ > the sum of the weights, it rescales first. > As quoted, [U] 14.1.6 includes the expression > "when it uses them", which thus appears not > ornamental, but crucial. > > When -summarize- _displays_ the sum of the > weights, it displays the unscaled sum. > > Nick > n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk > > Friedrich Huebler > > > Dear Toyoto, > > > > The auto data has 22 observations with foreign=1, not 50950. In [R] > > tabstat we read: "aweights and fweights are allowed; see [U] 14.1.6 > > weight." [U] 14.1.6 states that most Stata commands rescale the > > aweights to sum to N. However, -tabstat- does not rescale the > > weights. The fact that -tabstat- treats aweights the same way as > > fweights is not clearly documented. One could also argue that this > > behavior is inconsistent. > > > > Friedrich Huebler > > > > --- Toyoto Iwata <iwata@med.akita-u.ac.jp> wrote: > > > Dear Friedrich Huebler > > > > > > You wrote about > > > > > > > . tabstat foreign [aw=weight], stat(sum) > > > > > > > > variable | sum > > > > -------------+---------- > > > > foreign | 50950 > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > Perhaps I miss the point, but, > > > > > > .gen eachmean = foreign*weight > > > > > > .gen sumeachmean = sum(eachmean) /* I don't know the > mean of this. > > > */ > > > > > > . list sumeachmean in l > > > > > > +----------+ > > > | sumeac~n | > > > |----------| > > > 74. | 50950 | > > > +----------+ > > > > > > This seems to agree with the definition of the aweight. > > > > > > [Online help says,] > > > > > > aweights, or analytic weights, are weights that are inversely > > > proportional to the variance of an observation; i.e., > > > the variance of the j-th observation is assumed to be > sigma^2/w_j, > > > where w_j are the weights. > > > Typically, the observations represent averages and the > weights are > > > the number of elements that gave rise to the average. > > > > > > > > > > The Stata User's Guide states in section 14.1.6: "For most Stata > > > > commands, the recorded scale of aweights is irrelevant; Stata > > > > internally rescales them to sum to N, the number of observations > > > in > > > > your data, when it uses them." It would be useful if the Stata > > > > documentation could make clear which commands don't use aweights > > > in this manner. > > > > > > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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