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st: RE: RE: RE: out-of-date commands


From   "Nick Cox" <n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk>
To   <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   st: RE: RE: RE: out-of-date commands
Date   Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:53:00 -0000

Givanni Vecchi
>
> thank you very much for your reply.
>
> I am not sure I understand the - grep - part of your email,
> though. What
> does - grep - mean?

http://jargon.watson-net.com/lexicon.asp?w=grep

In my case, I was using a Windows port of the GNU utilities.

> Also, I don't see the - tutorial - command in the list in
> your e-mail.
> How can I be sure about whether it has been eliminated? Am
> I supposed to
> check its entry in the Stata documentation? I've tried
> -findit totorial-
> but have been unable to find a (however short)
> communication about its
> disappearance.

Good question, and one mostly for Stata Corp. My impression
is that the tutorials -- defined as what are run by -tutorial- --
are not being maintained into Stata 8. Even if you copy
the old files, they won't necessarily work.

In the case of graphics, -whelp graph_intro- is a substitute.

The style of the tutorials -- essentially emitting a
windowful of stuff at a time -- has become arguably very out-of-date
anyway. I've sensed students getting bored and bailing out presented
with this style. The contents had in many cases become very
out-of-date
as well. I've not used them for teaching for some years. It
is a lot easier -- and in many ways just as effective -- to
write documents to be looked at in the viewer. Naturally, that's
some work as compared with no work in using pre-prepared tutorials.

Still, I guess Stata Corp will be sorry that some users will
miss them.

In general -findit- finds what stuff exists, not notes
on what doesn't exist.

> This makes me feel a bit puzzled. I am about
> to update my
> class notes to account for the new release of Stata 8: the
> existence of
> a document listing all out-of-date commands would save me
> the checking
> of every single Stata 7 command I use in my notes before
> teaching...

I wouldn't recommending teaching Stata 8 before using it.

Nick
n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk

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