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Re: st: RE: Efficient parallel computing in Stata/MP


From   Demian Panigo <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st: RE: Efficient parallel computing in Stata/MP
Date   Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:06:43 -0300

Thank you very much Daniel:
Just one more question.
You finally used 24 cores (cores and hypercores) to run 3 parallel
Stata MP/8 jobs with interesting time saving outcomes.
But, did you compared these results with those obtained by just run 24
parallel Stata SE jobs in, for example, batch mode?
In other words, if my problem has a lot parallelizable tasks (e.g
many independent linear regressions) and they must be performed on a
small database (e.g. 50 variables with 1000 observations each) using
an 8-core CPU (in my University there are more powerfull servers but
not always available), should I rely on a single Stata/MP8 instance, 2
Stata/MP4 parallel instances (with a proper rewritten code) or 8
Stata/SE instances?
Which is better?
Thanks in advance
Demian



2013/9/27 Daniel Feenberg <[email protected]>:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Demian Panigo
>> Sent: 27 September 2013 01:02
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: st: Efficient parallel computing in Stata/MP
>>
>> Dear Statalist members: I need some help, because I'm not sure about
>> some Stata/MP properties for parallel computing.
>> We know from http://www.stata.com/statamp/statamp.pdf that many
>> estimation commands (e.g. regress) are almost fully parallelizable and
>> that average efficiency for all commands is around 72%. So, in
>> standard linear regression problems (e.g running one million equations
>> for parameter stability analysis), using Stata/MP in a multiple-core
>> CPU would be an optimal time saving strategy.
>> However, it is also possible to exploit the multi-core CPU environment
>> by working with multiple parallel Stata/MP instances (e.g. using 4
>> parallel Stata/MP instances to run 250.000 linear regressions with
>> each core).
>> My question is simple.... Can I save some time by using this "dual
>> parallelism" methodology? (because parallel computing is
>> authomatically used by Stata/MP to parallelize internal tasks of, for
>> example, regress; and because I also parallelize the whole set of
>> regressions between 4 cores, by means of multiple Stata/MP instances).
>> Thanks in advance
>> *
>
>
> In my experience, Stata/MP fully exploits as many real cores as are
> available, very efficiently for regression commands. If you have hypercores,
> running multiple Stata jobs will exploit those efficiently also. I posted
> the results of a simple experiment at:
>
>   http://www.nber.org/stata/efficient
>
> under heading "Stata/MP".
>
> -parallel.ado- is a very interesting routine. It will start up multiple
> Stata processes and let each one read a part of the dataset, then combine
> the results into a single dataset. For processes that are single-threaded
> for no good reason, or if you don't have Stata/MP, it seems like a great
> idea. I believe it will also work well with hyper-cores, but I have no
> experience with it. But for I/O it would just make things worse, since each
> thread has to read the entire dataset.
>
> See
>
>   http://www.stata.com/statamp/report.pdf
>
> for a more discouraging report on hyper-cores. I don't have an explanation
> for the difference in experiences. There is no substitute for
> experimentation on your actual hardware, and there would be interest on this
> list in your experience.
>
> Daniel Feenberg
> NBER
>
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-- 
Demian T. Panigo
Lic. en Economía, UNLP,
Master en Cs Sociales, UBA,
Doctor en Economía, EHESS-ENS (Paris)
Investigador Adjunto del CEIL-PIETTE del CONICET
Docente investigador de la UNM, de la UNLP, de la UBA, y de
Paris-Jourdan Sciences Economiques-ENS.
Miembro del Programa de Formación Popular en Economía (PROFOPE)

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