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Re: st: lorenz ordinates in stata


From   Nick Cox <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st: lorenz ordinates in stata
Date   Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:38:27 +0000

Neglecting (ignoring) within-county variation is what you seem to be
proposing to do, so I don't know why you want me to explain it. You
are neglecting or ignoring it necessarily because, on the information
you give us, you don't have data to do otherwise.

If all you have is one value -- presumably a mean, but you haven't
explained "per capita", which just means "per person", and doesn't
imply mean, median or anything else necessarily -- for each county in
each year, then you can proceed only by assuming that the distribution
of county means (or whatever) approximates the distribution of income
across persons. I imagine that you are an economist, and I know I am
not one, but that seems to me to be likely to be a dubious assumption,
to put it mildly.

I am making the same very simple point: do you really have the data to
do what you want? Because if not, which programs could do it is
immaterial. I am asking a question, not giving advice on what you
should do.

Nick

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Ajita Atreya <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Could you please illustrate more on what kind of distribution can I get by neglecting within-county variation and how should I proceed.
>
> Thanks,
> Ajita
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:21:40 +0000
>> Subject: Re: st: lorenz ordinates in stata
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> Thanks for the further details. On this information, you can only
>> proceed to a distribution by neglecting within-county variation.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Ajita Atreya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Nick,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your reply.
>> >
>> > I might have misrepresented my data here.
>> >
>> > I have data on per capita flood premium paid and percapita income for each county (144 counties) and year (1978-2010). I am trying to determine progressivity by examining the departure from proportionality using lorenz and concentration curve. I believe there must be some program in stata for this kind of analysis.
>> >
>> > Thank you for your help
>> > Ajita
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> >> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:00:46 +0000
>> >> Subject: Re: st: lorenz ordinates in stata
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >>
>> >> It seems that you have one observation for each county and year, at a
>> >> wild guess some sort of county mean. Where is the information on
>> >> variability that would enable you to construct a Lorenz curve? At most
>> >> you can pool the counties to get a distribution for each year, but
>> >> then you still have no information on variability within county.
>> >>
>> >> Typing -findit- with appropriate keywords will reveal several
>> >> user-written programs, but they seem beyond what you can use.
>> >>
>> >> Nick
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ajita Atreya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Dear statalist,
>> >> >
>> >> > Can anyone help me on the best way to get lorenz ordinates for county income in deciles. I have the data in the following form
>> >> >
>> >> > county Year Per capitaIncome
>> >> > A 1978 1000
>> >> > A 1979 2000
>> >> > B 1978 500
>> >> > B 1979 600
>> >> > B 1980 700
>> >> > c
>> >> > .

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