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From |
Yingge Lin <yingge.lin@gmail.com> |

To |
statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu |

Subject |
Re: st: Neumark decomposition |

Date |
Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:04:28 -0400 |

Thanks so much Fernando. You are correct that I should have used -oaxaca- with omega for Neumark decompostion. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Fernando Rios Avila <f.rios.a@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yingge, > The syntax you are using for the -oaxaca- command is incorrect. > If you want to replicate the Neumark decomposition you need to use > oaxaca depvar [indepvars] , by(groupvar) , omega > rather than "pooled" > According to the -oaxaca- help file, the pooled option includes the > excluded variable (in the syntax the ) in the pooled > regression. Whereas omega only includes the independent variables > declared. > Fernando > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Yingge Lin <yingge.lin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thank, Nick. >> >> The syntax I used is: >> >> .oaxaca depvar [indepvars] , by(groupvar) , pooled >> and >> .decompose depvar [indepvars], by(groupvar) detail estimates >> >> From my understanding, using pooled with _oaxaca will generate Neumark >> decompostion as it used the coefficient from the pooled data >> regression. And in the detail results that _decompose produced, there >> is one when D=* is also for Neumark decompostion. I run both program >> on the same data set but the results are not the same. I wonder >> whether I misunderstand the program or there is one program might >> contain error. i hope I could get some feedback from someone who also >> used those program and see whether same thing happen to them. Maybe >> someone on the list could help me and point out where I make mistake. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Best, >> Yingge >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Nick Cox <njcoxstata@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Yingge Lin: >> > >> > Rest assured that Maarten has a long track record of helping many, >> > many people on this list and also that he and Ben Jann are on entirely >> > good terms. Maarten did not explain his comment fully, but it is not >> > necessary to add to his remarks on the episode he mentioned. He was >> > merely trying to explain that Ben is no longer a member of this list, >> > so that it follows that you should ask Ben directly about his >> > programs. Even if users of these programs comment directly, that >> > remains good advice. >> > >> > The Statalist FAQ explains that you should assume goodwill even when >> > it is not evident. I would summarize Maarten's main advice as that it >> > is difficult to help you if you do not help yourself by asking precise >> > questions. >> > The purpose of such advice is not to shoot you down but to encourage >> > you to ask precise questions. Despite all that, it remains difficult >> > to comment on your experiences, including whether you have made >> > mistakes, as you give no details on exactly what command syntax you >> > used nor exactly what results you got. >> > >> > I am commenting on your general aspersions; I don't use either of the >> > commands you mention. >> > >> > Nick >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Yingge Lin <yingge.lin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Maarten >> >> >> >> Sorry if my question made you uncomfortable, but I think you should >> >> know that your answer has certainly made me very uncomfortable. I >> >> thought statalist is a place where people discuss the questions about >> >> STATA and learn from each other. All I wanted was some feedback from >> >> those who also have used -oaxaca- and -decompose-, and see whether I >> >> made mistake or one of the commands have some error. The -oaxaca- and >> >> -decompose- can be installed by ssc install. >> >> >> >> I do not know whether there is anything going on between Ben Jann and >> >> you, but it was never my intention to waste anybody’s time. But I do >> >> not appreciate that you tried to accuse me of looking for a shortcut >> >> only and wasting someone else time. It is untrue, and certainly if you >> >> felt so strongly that answering my questions was a waste of your time >> >> or were having a bad day, you really could have just chosen to ignore >> >> my questions. >> >> >> >> Yingge >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Maarten Buis <maartenlbuis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Yingge Lin wrote: >> >>>> I am using STATA10. Ben Jann also have -oaxaca- for earlier version of >> >>>> stata (8 and 9). Hope these clarify a little bit of my questions. >> >>> >> >>> That was not what I was asking. I asked where you got the user written >> >>> software from (-oaxaca- and -decompose-), not which version of Stata >> >>> you were using. However, you should also have told use which version >> >>> of Stata you were using. Since you did not say so in your original >> >>> question I assumed, per the Statalist FAQ, you used the most recent >> >>> (12). >> >>> >> >>> I realize that often we want answers quickly, and thus take >> >>> short-cuts, like not reading the FAQ. But this illustrates that short >> >>> cuts often lead to more work. If this only meant that you wasted your >> >>> own time, than that is not so bad: hopefully you have learned >> >>> something in the process. However, you are also wasting our time. >> >>> Since you rely on our good will to get answers, wasting our time is >> >>> not a good idea. So I strongly suggest that you take your time to read >> >>> the FAQ carefully before posting anything on the list. >> >>> >> >>> Anyhow, my answer remains the same: Ben Jann is no longer active on >> >>> the list (a sad story, involving one of the most dysfunctional periods >> >>> on statalist), so you need to contact him directly. >> >>> >> > >> > * >> > * For searches and help try: >> > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq >> > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ >> >> * >> * For searches and help try: >> * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search >> * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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