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Re: st: Suggestion - Citing references from Stata Journal


From   Michael McCulloch <mm@pinestreetfoundation.org>
To   "statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   Re: st: Suggestion - Citing references from Stata Journal
Date   Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:30:31 -0700

I've used Endnote and Stata the same amount of time (started Stata with v6). In my experience,automatic import and manual entry citations take the same amount of time. The claim of time savings is spurious.


Sincerely,

Michael McCulloch, LAc MPH PhD
Pine Street Clinic / Pine Street Foundation
124 Pine Street
San Anselmo, CA 94960
www.pinestreetfoundation.org


On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Thees Spreckelsen <Thees.Spreckelsen@nuffield.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> I would add:
> 
> Free automatic import into EndNote, BibTeX, RefManager etc.
> is also available through Google Scholar.
> 
> The preferences in Google Scholar allow to specify this option.
> (See for How-to: http://www.endnote.com/support/faqs/Import/faq11.asp)
> 
> I could find any STATAjournal article listed on ideas.repec.org through GoScholar, too.
> 
> Thees
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Maarten Buis [maartenlbuis@gmail.com]
> Sent: 12 April 2012 14:36
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: st: Suggestion - Citing references from Stata Journal
> 
> I do not understand the hostility here, nor do I understand the need to SHOUT.
> 
> Anyhow, a solution was already proposed: the listings on the SSC
> archive. This includes (usually within days) references to all
> articles appearing in the Stata Journal. A complete list of articles
> can be found here: <http://ideas.repec.org/s/tsj/stataj.html>.
> 
> Say you want to download John Gallup's article in the latest Stata
> Journal, than you look it up on the site given above, follow the link
> (in this case <http://ideas.repec.org/a/tsj/stataj/v12y2012i1p3-28.html>)
> and look for the heading "Bibliographic Info". There you will find
> "Download reference", which will allow you to download a citation in
> various formats, including the formats you asked for.
> 
> -- Maarten
> 
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Tiago V. Pereira wrote:
>> There is absolutely no point in adding manually references from the Stata
>> Journal to reference manager softwares. I won't do it. People won't do it.
>> I won't pay a lot of money for Web of Science to cite Stata Journal
>> either.
>> 
>> If one does not have FREE and FULL access to each reference from that
>> journal, so that one can quickly import them to reference manager programs
>> (ENDNOTE, REFERENCE MANAGER, etc.), user-written packages won't get cited.
>> Period.
>> 
>> 
>> The Stata Journal loses. Authors of Stata packages lose. Everything is
>> summarized in "All statistical analyses were conducted using Stata
>> (version X, Stata Corp, College Station, Texas, USA)."
>> 
>> Pity.
>> 
>> Tiago
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From      Kieran McCaul <kieran.mccaul@uwa.edu.au>
>> To        "statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
>> Subject           st: RE: Suggestion - Citing references from Stata Journal
>> Date      Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:00 +0800
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> You can certainly manually add references to EndNote.
>> You can also connect to Web of Science where the Stata Journal is indexed
>> and download the reference directly from there, although access to this
>> may require institutional subscription.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Tiago V.
>> Pereira
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 3:50 AM
>> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> Subject: st: Suggestion - Citing references from Stata Journal
>> 
>> Stas Kolenikov has pointed out a set of very interesting posts that are
>> likely to be useful not only for Stata users but also for Stata
>> programmers.
>> 
>> 
>> http://stats.stackexchange.com/q/3814/5739
>> 
>> 
>> One of the messages signalizes:
>> 
>> 
>> "What particularly irritates me personally is people who clearly used
>> user-written packages for statistical software but don't cite them
>> properly, or at all, thereby failing to give any credit to the authors.
>> Doing so is particularly important when the authors are in academia and
>> their jobs depend on publishing papers that get cited. (Perhaps I should
>> add that, in my field, many of the culprits are not statisticians.)"
>> 
>> 
>> For example, I am author of a number of papers, which were only published
>> because there are  Roger Newson, Maarten Buis, Roger Harbord, Nick Cox,
>> Jonathan Sterne, Michael Bradburn, ..., among several other researchers
>> that spent thousands of hours writing programs that are now promptly
>> available .
>> 
>> 
>> However, I don't cite Stata packages, even though several of them have a
>> full paper published in the Stata Journal. It happens that it is very
>> tedious to manually add references to my reference manager program. As I
>> am usually running out of the time, I end up citing only the Stata
>> software, but no user-written package.
>> 
>> 
>> Since the Stata Journal is indexed in the Science Citation Index Expanded
>> and the CompuMath Citation Index only, I can't found complete references
>> in an appropriate format that enables me to automatically create the
>> citation.
>> 
>> 
>> So, my suggestion would be to make available complete references in the
>> website, so that one using ENDNOTE, for example, can quickly import a
>> reference and cite it in his/her manuscripts.
>> 
>> This is likely to be of great interest for the Stata Journal as well as
>> for programmers augmenting the credibility of the research work that
>> depends on user-written Stata packages.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Tiago
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> 
> 
> 
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