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"Lachenbruch, Peter" <Peter.Lachenbruch@oregonstate.edu> |

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st: RE: R: Negative binomial regression with exposure and predictors correlated |

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Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:14:19 -0700 |

Did I miss something? Wouldn't patients having more prescriptions likely be sicker and more likely to be admitted to hospital. If we had an oncology center or a dialysis center those patients will have a high number of prescriptions and a lot of admissions (possibly outpatient for chemotherapy). Tony Peter A. Lachenbruch Department of Public Health Oregon State University Corvallis, OR 97330 Phone: 541-737-3832 FAX: 541-737-4001 -----Original Message----- From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Carlo Lazzaro Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:17 AM To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Cc: 'Seed, Paul' Subject: st: R: Negative binomial regression with exposure and predictors correlated Paul wrote: "If correct, it would appear the drug is doing harm!" For sure Paul has already ruled out a possible explanation (out of statistical technicalities)for this strange "more prescribing, more hospital admissions" result, that is the new treatment-induced adverse effects requiring hospitalization. Kind Regards, Carlo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Per conto di Seed, Paul Inviato: martedì 31 agosto 2010 13.42 A: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Oggetto: st: Negative binomial regression with exposure and predictors correlated Dear Statalist, I am struggling with a rather tricky modelling problem & would greatly appreciate any thoughts. I wish to know whether the introduction of a new treatment in Primary Care can be linked to a fall in Hospital admissions. However, all my data is at the level of the practice, not the patient or patient group. I therefore use negative binomial regression, with the number of patients as the exposure. The main predictor is the rate of prescribing, estimated as the total cost of prescriptions for the drug of interest, divided by number of patients in each practice. After correcting for age, gender & other drugs used, I find a strong paradoxical effect of more prescribing associated with more hospital admissions. If correct, it would appear the drug is doing harm! However, the number of patients with the condition per practice appears twice in the model (as divisor and as exposure), so the effect may be an artefact. As a sensitivity analysis, I can use a variety of different exposures and divisors: E_diag - the number of patients with the diagnosis recorded E_50y - The total number of patients over 50 (the condition is rarely seen below this age) E_Pred - The predicted number of patients affected, based on the age & gender profile of the practice (typically 10 patients affected for 1 diagnosed). This gives 9 possible combinations of exposure and divisor. When the exposure and the divisor are both the same do I get the significant result. But I also get a significant result when using E_50y and E_pred together. ( A total of 5 results significant out of 9) One further complication: I actually have data repeated for 3 years. The results above generally hold when looking at one year at a time. When I combine the data & use -xtpoisson, fe-, instead of -nbreg-, only one comparison (matching E_diag with E_diag) remains significant. 2 questions (for those of you have read this far) * Is there a better model to use than -nbreg- or -xtpoisson, fe-? (NOTE: xtnbreg does not generally converge, but when it does the answers are similar) * Is it safe to ignore the anomalous result and conclude that there is no evidence of an effect ? I can of course supply code and output if required, but I think I have taken up enough bandwidth. Best Wishes, Paul Seed * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

**References**:**st: Negative binomial regression with exposure and predictors correlated***From:*"Seed, Paul" <paul.seed@kcl.ac.uk>

**st: R: Negative binomial regression with exposure and predictors correlated***From:*"Carlo Lazzaro" <carlo.lazzaro@tin.it>

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