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Re: st: AW: Two weights at the same time?


From   Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: AW: Two weights at the same time?
Date   Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:38:41 -0400

" These weights are for persons. If you are analyzing household
characteristics or HH summaries of individual responses, none of them
applies".  Actually a form correction might well apply for HH
summaries of data on the problem forms.  Nothing will substitute for
the advice of someone truly knowledgeable about this survey. Creating
weight corrections without sound understanding is just asking for
trouble. One way of checking your weights is to reproduce published
estimates and their standard errors.

Steve


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steve Samuels <sjsamuels@gmail.com> wrote:
> The titles are similar but the problem is not. Daniel, I'm not
> familiar with the GSS, but I have looked at:
> http://publicdata.norc.org/webview/velocity?study=http%3A%2F%2Fpublicdata.norc.org%3A80%2Fobj%2FfStudy%2F4697&node=30&mode=documentation&submode=ddi&v=2&doprint=true.
>
> The advice below is based on quick reading of that page, and I could
> well be wrong. I suggest that you contact someone who has analyzed the
> survey data for these years and ask them to send you the code they
> used to calculate the weights. In Stata, you should use probability
> weights ("pweights") and not analytic weights.
>
> The study does not provide a base household weight, because all
> households have the same weight. The FORMWT variable is relevant only
> to certain forms. For analyzing variables on those forms, you create a
> "final" weight equal to FINAL_WT= FORMWT x ADULTS; for other forms,
> FINAL_WT = ADULTS If you are analyzing the ISSP questions on Form 1,
> you might want to create a weighting factor to adjust for
> non-response; see the section on the ISSP variable. You might also
> create post-stratification weights to compensate for the
> under-sampling of males.
>
> These weights are for persons. If you are analyzing household
> characteristics or HH summaries of individual responses, none of them
> applies. You would create a household weight equal to 1 for those
> analyses, but see the section on "Weights for 2004-06 GSS".
>
> Good introductions to weighting are in: Groves, Fowler et al., Survey
> Methodology, 2nd Ed, 2009 (Wiley); in Levy and Lemeshow, Sampling of
> Populations, Wiley, 2009; and in Sharon Lohr, Sampling, Design and
> Analysis: Brooks-Cole, 2009.
>
> Steve
>
> -
> Steven Samuels
> sjsamuels@gmail.com
> 18 Cantine's Island
> Saugerties NY 12477
> USA
> Voice: 845-246-0774
> Fax:    206-202-4783
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Martin Weiss <martin.weiss1@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> <>
>> Sounds very similar to Jochen`s recent thread at
>> http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2010-08/msg00121.html
>>
>> HTH
>> Martin
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
>> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Daniel Goya
>> León
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. August 2010 13:05
>> An: statalist
>> Betreff: st: Two weights at the same time?
>>
>> Hello. I think this question might be more pure statistics than
>> stata-related, but hopefully you can help me out please.
>> I'm currently working with the GSS (1985 and 2004), and have an issue
>> with weights (for simple OLS regressions). The 2004 data includes a
>> variable that explicitely takes into account two things: subsampling
>> of a group due to two-stage stratification, and the number of adults
>> in the household.
>> My problem is that with the 1985 data I'm working, I also need to
>> correct for two things: people in household, and a form randomization
>> mistake from that year. But I have two independent weight variables.
>> (formwt and adults in 1985 gss). If my understanding is right, I
>> should use analytical weights for both. Is there any way to use two
>> weights at the same time? Is it valid at all to simply multiply them?
>> Am I talking nonsense?
>> I hope that you can help me out please, thanks in advance
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> ps:I'm definitely studying some sampling before going into more
>> empirical work...
>> *
>>
> -
>



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Steven Samuels
sjsamuels@gmail.com
18 Cantine's Island
Saugerties NY 12477
USA
Voice: 845-246-0774
Fax:    206-202-4783

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