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st: re: Contingency tables etc. in Stata and SPSS

From   "John F Hall" <>
To   "Statalist" <>
Subject   st: re: Contingency tables etc. in Stata and SPSS
Date   Mon, 9 Aug 2010 07:14:38 +0200


Glad you like the site. Did you check out Old Dog, Old Tricks ?

At age 70 next December, I'm hardly keen to learn yet more software. From what I've seen so far, Stata would be harder for the sort of students I taught, but I haven't seen the new GUI yet. If it's anything like the GUI in SPSS, give me syntax every time. However, if anyone out there wants to produce Stata examples for all my SPSS ones, feel free: all the data sets I use are on the site I can post them to my site (full credit given) or you can build your own.

To give you an idea of what's going on re Stata vs SPSS, I'll assemble a composite mail and post it to the Stata list. Being a survey researcher rather than a statistician, I find that both camps are a tad over-statistical (Stata perhaps more so) and not sufficiently geared to content - the triumph of technique over substance?

As John Tukey once said, "All the statistics in the world won't help you if you asked the wrong question in the first place!" And as my old boss, the late Dr Mark Abrams, once said, "If it's worth saying, you can say it in percentages."

John Hall

Nice web site.

This is an increasingly common question from users moving from SPSS to Stata.

see the online and PDF help for


The third party ssc command "fre" is a nice alternative to tabulate, too.

Beyond that and the sources you mentioned, maybe you can be the one to create the definitive "SPSS to Stata tabulation guide for survey researchers". UNC has some things as does UCLA.


Greetings from a newbie to the list (but an Old SPSS Dog)

Just been browsing round the Stata site to see if I can find any comparisons between Stata and SPSS for simple procedures like frequency counts and crosstabs. I'd like to display parallel examples of syntax and default output. [...] If anyone can point me in the direction of any Stata output like the tables and other materials on my website, I'd be grateful., also for feedback on ease of use and understanding.

John Hall

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