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John Antonakis <john.antonakis@unil.ch> |

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Re: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg |

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Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:22:31 +0100 |

Hi Mark: I have a similar error; however, the message I get is: Warning: estimated covariance matrix of moment conditions not of full rank. overidentification statistic not reported, and standard errors and model tests should be interpreted with caution. Possible causes:

partial option may address problem.

Best, J. ____________________________________________________ Prof. John Antonakis, Associate Dean Faculty of Business and Economics Department of Organizational Behavior University of Lausanne Internef #618 CH-1015 Lausanne-Dorigny Switzerland Tel ++41 (0)21 692-3438 Fax ++41 (0)21 692-3305 Faculty page: http://www.hec.unil.ch/people/jantonakis Personal page: http://www.hec.unil.ch/jantonakis ____________________________________________________ On 12.02.2010 09:55, Schaffer, Mark E wrote: > Sara, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu >> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of >> sara borelli >> Sent: 12 February 2010 07:58 >> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu >> Cc: Schaffer, Mark E >> Subject: R: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg >> >> Hi Mark, >> I am sorry I did not understand your answer...and I think it >> is because I I made a typo in writing the command and I did >> not explain myself clearly. I do NOT include i.county in >> xtivreg2. So I reformulate my question: >> >> xtivreg2 CRit (Xit=Wit) Zit (state by year fixed effects), >> fe i(county), cluster(county) >> >> gives the error message " estimated covariance matrix of >> moment conditions not of full rank; overidentification >> statistic not reported, and standard errors and model tests

>> versa) fwl option may address problem" >> >> but the same command xtivreg2 without state by year effects: >> xtivreg2 CRit (Xit=Wit) Zit, fe i(county), cluster(county) >> does NOT report the above error message >> >> I do not uderstand why the inclusion of state by year fe >> caused that error message > > I think your explanation in your earlier email is probably right: > >> I noticed that 2 states have a number of counties (clusters) lower >> than the number of years available. By dropping these two states STATA >> run the xtivreg2 without giving the error message. >> >> I have read the help file and FAQ and I think something is going with >> those state by year effects that creates a kind of singleton dummy >> problem, but I am not sure Any help would be appreciated >

>

> > --Mark > >> thank you >> sara >> >> >> >> --- Gio 11/2/10, Schaffer, Mark E <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk> ha scritto: >> >>> Da: Schaffer, Mark E <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk> >>> Oggetto: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg >>> A: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu >>> Data: Giovedì 11 febbraio 2010, 19:43 >>> Sara, >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu >>>> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] >>> On Behalf Of >>>> sara borelli >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:32 PM >>>> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu >>>> Subject: st: ivreg versus xtivreg >>>> >>>> Dear members, >>>> I am running the following regressions in STATA8.2: >>>> CRit = a*Xit + b*Zit + (state by >>> year fixed effects) + >>>> (county fixed effects), cluster(county) >>>> >>>> CRit= crime rate in county i year t >>>> Xit = endogenous regressor >>>> Zit = set of 7 exogenous regressors >>>> state by year fixed effects = interactions between >>> indicators >>>> for each state and year >>>> >>>> I instrument Xit using Wit >>>> There are 246 counties, 10 states, 8 years I have been >> running this >>>> model with two commands >>>> >>>> xi: ivreg CRit >>> (Xit=Wit) Zit (state by year fixed >>>> effects) i.county, cluster(county) >>>> xtivreg2 CRit (Xit=Wit) >>> Zit (state by year fixed >>>> effects) i.county, fe i.(county) >>> cluster(county) >>>> the two commands give exactly the same coefficient, >>> and just >>>> slightly different std errors, but after xtivreg2 I >>> get the >>>> following message: >>>> Error: estimated covariance matrix of moment >>> conditions not >>>> of full rank; >>>> overidentification statistic not reported, and >>> standard >>>> errors and model tests >>> should be interpreted with >>>> caution. Possible causes: singleton dummy >>> variable (dummy >>>> with one 1 and N-1 0s or vice versa) fwl option may >>> address problem. >>>> I noticed that 2 states have a number of counties >>> (clusters) >>>> lower than the number of years available. By dropping >>> these >>>> two states STATA run the xtivreg2 without giving the >>> error message. >>>> I have read the help file and FAQ and I think >>> something is >>>> going with those state by year effects that creates a >>> kind of >>>> singleton dummy problem, but I am not sure Any help would be >>>> appreciated >>> It's not a problem. >>> >>> You will note that xtivreg2 does not report the fixed effect dummy >>> variables. >>> >>> xi: ivreg2 explicitly includes the dummies, and the >> coefficients are >>> reported. >>> >>> The warning message reported by ivreg2 is triggered by the >> fact that >>> there are now many more rows/columns in the VCV, the new, >> extended VCV >>> is no longer full rank. >>> >>> In fact, the coefficients and standard errors for the >> dummies aren't >>> consistent anyway (under the usual panel data assumptions - this is >>> the "incidental parameters problem"). So you really aren't >> interested >>> in the extended VCV anyway. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Mark

>>>> sara >>>> >>>> >>>>

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**Follow-Ups**:**RE: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg***From:*"Schaffer, Mark E" <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk>

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**R: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg***From:*sara borelli <saraborelli77@yahoo.it>

**RE: st: RE: ivreg versus xtivreg***From:*"Schaffer, Mark E" <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk>

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