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RE: st: RE: RE: ivhettest


From   "Schaffer, Mark E" <[email protected]>
To   <[email protected]>
Subject   RE: st: RE: RE: ivhettest
Date   Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:57:09 -0000

Ekrem,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Ekrem Kalkan
> Sent: 10 January 2010 23:21
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: st: RE: RE: ivhettest
> 
> Mark,
> In this case, would you suggest any other test of 
> heteroscedasticity for an IV regression with panel data?

It's possible that some of the other heteroskedasticity tests out there work with the fixed effects estimator, but I don't know which ones (if any) these would be.

> A similar question is for a test of autocorrelation. I use "abar"
> (Arellano-Bond test of autocorrelation) do you think it is 
> suitable for the IV panel regression ?

It's suitable for IV panel regression, but not fixed effects with dynamic models - see the abar help file for more detail on all this.

Cheers,
Mark

> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Ekrem.
> 
> 
> 2010/1/11 Schaffer, Mark E <[email protected]>:
> > Ekrem,
> >
> > The problem is a fundamental econometric problem, and it 
> doesn't matter whether you use xtivreg2,fe or ivreg2 with 
> dummies - it's the same problem.
> >
> > If you check out their paper, you'll see that the bias in 
> the usual Eicker-Huber-White-sandwich-robust VCE is 
> proportional to 1/(T-1).  If T is large enough for you to 
> conclude the bias is small, you should be OK.  But if T is 
> small, then any tests that use this VCE won't be consistent.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ekrem 
> >> Kalkan
> >> Sent: 10 January 2010 22:56
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: st: RE: RE: ivhettest
> >>
> >> Thank you Mark , it now works.
> >>
> >> Regarding the problem with fixed-effects, do you think 
> that I can use 
> >> ivhettest after the command ivreg2 by adding panelid dummies as 
> >> regressors instead of a regression with xtivreg2.
> >>
> >> Ekrem.
> >>
> >> 2010/1/11 Schaffer, Mark E <[email protected]>:
> >> > Ekrem,
> >> >
> >> > This is a bug I accidentally introduced into a recent
> >> update of ivhettest, and which I subsequently corrected shortly 
> >> thereafter.  You must be one of the few who downloaded the buggy 
> >> version.
> >> >
> >> > If you reinstall ivhettest, the new version should work.
> >> >
> >> > That said, the Stock-Watson point still stands - unless
> >> your data are large-T-large-N (i.e., you have a reasonable 
> number of 
> >> observations in the time series dimension as well as the 
> >> cross-section dimension), the test provided by ivhettest won't be 
> >> consistent with the fixed effects estimator.
> >> >
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: [email protected]
> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Ekrem 
> >> >> Kalkan
> >> >> Sent: 10 January 2010 22:21
> >> >> To: [email protected]
> >> >> Subject: Re: st: RE: RE: ivhettest
> >> >>
> >> >> First I set my panel  units: "xtset productid marketid"
> >> >> "marketid" is created by egen marketid=group(city month).
> >> >>
> >> >> Then, I run the following:
> >> >>
> >> >> ivreg2 y (x1 x2 = z1 z2 z3 ) productdummies citydummies
> >> monthdummies
> >> >> othervariables
> >> >>
> >> >> Here is the trace of "ivhettest, bpg" after this regression:
> >> >>
> >> >> - version 7.0
> >> >> - local version 1.1.7
> >> >> - syntax [varlist(default=none)] [if] [in] [, ivlev ivsq
> >> ivcp fitlev
> >> >> fitsq ph phnorm phsym nr2 bpg all ]
> >> >> - if "`e(cmd)'" != "ivreg" & "`e(cmd)'" != "ivreg2" &
> >> "`e(cmd)'" !=
> >> >> "ivgmm0" & "`e(cmd)'" != "regress" { = if "ivreg2" != "ivreg" & 
> >> >> "ivreg2" != "ivreg2" & "ivreg2" != "ivgmm0"
> >> >> & "ivreg2" != "regress" {
> >> >>   error 301
> >> >>   }
> >> >> - if "`e(fwlcons)'`e(partialcons)'" != "" { = if "0" != "" {
> >> >> - di in r "ivhettest not allowed after ivreg2 with partial 
> >> >> (previously
> >> >> fwl) option"
> >> >> ivhettest not allowed after ivreg2 with partial (previously
> >> >> fwl) option
> >> >> - error 499
> >> >>   }
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps.
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ekrem.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/1/10 Martin Weiss <[email protected]>:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > <>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > " There is not the "partial" command."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -partial- would be an option to -ivreg2-, not a 
> command. It is 
> >> >> > probably best if you just show the sequence of commands
> >> as typed in
> >> >> > the command line, and as the FAQ request. In the 
> absence of this 
> >> >> > information, the problem is difficult to diagnose. Also
> >> >> -set trace on-
> >> >> > and report the lines around the error.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > HTH
> >> >> > Martin
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >> > Von: [email protected]
> >> >> > [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag
> >> von Ekrem
> >> >> > Kalkan
> >> >> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Januar 2010 22:53
> >> >> > An: [email protected]
> >> >> > Betreff: Re: st: RE: RE: ivhettest
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My observations are in 3-dimensional space: Product x
> >> City x Time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have 93 products as cross-sectional units.  Instead 
> of using 
> >> >> > commands like xtivreg or xtivreg2, I use dummy variables
> >> for each
> >> >> > cross-sectional units and run the model with command
> >> >> "ivreg2". There
> >> >> > is not the "partial" command.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My equation is below:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ivreg2 y (x1 x2 = z1 z2 z3 ) productdummies citydummies
> >> >> monthdummies
> >> >> > othervariables
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then I implement "ivhettest" and get the error I had wrote
> >> >> previously.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ekrem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2010/1/10 Schaffer, Mark E <[email protected]>:
> >> >> >> Ekrenm,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In addition to what Eric and Martin have said, I should
> >> >> note that the
> >> >> >> test employed by -ivhettest- (as well as Stata's -estat
> >> >> hettest- and
> >> >> >> others, I suspect) isn't valid after panel data estimation
> >> >> with fixed
> >> >> >> effects.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The reason is that the test based on the contrast 
> between the 
> >> >> >> classical non-robust VCV and the heteroskedastic-robust
> >> >> VCV, as per
> >> >> >> White (Econometrica 1980).  However, as Stock and Watson 
> >> >> >> (Econometrica 2008) have shown, the standard 
> >> >> >> Eicker-Huber-White-robust-sandwich VCV isn't 
> consistent for the 
> >> >> >> standard fixed effects estimator.  Thus the test isn't
> >> >> valid, because
> >> >> >> in the presence of heteroskedasticity it's contrasting two
> >> >> different inconsistent VCVs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --Mark
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> >> >> Of DE SOUZA
> >> >> >>> Eric
> >> >> >>> Sent: 10 January 2010 20:56
> >> >> >>> To: '[email protected]'
> >> >> >>> Subject: st: RE: ivhettest
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> It says what is says. You used the "partial" option
> >> with ivreg2.
> >> >> >>> This partials out the effects of certain variables.
> >> >> >>> When you use this option,  you cannot use ivhettest 
> after it.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> If you did not use the "partial" option with the command
> >> >> -ivreg2-,
> >> >> >>> please indicate exactly what you did.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Eric de Souza
> >> >> >>> College of Europe
> >> >> >>> BE-8000 Brugge (Bruges)
> >> >> >>> Belgium
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf Of Ekrem
> >> >> >>> Kalkan
> >> >> >>> Sent: 10 January 2010 21:50
> >> >> >>> To: [email protected]
> >> >> >>> Subject: st: ivhettest
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Dear Stata users,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> After running a regression with "ivreg2" command, I run
> >> >> "ivhettest"
> >> >> >>> command for testing for heteroscedasticity. But, I
> >> >> receive the error
> >> >> >>> below:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> . ivhettest, bpg
> >> >> >>> ivhettest not allowed after ivreg2 with partial (previously
> >> >> >>> fwl) option
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Could you tell me what does this mean and how can I test 
> >> >> >>> heteroscedasticiy after an IV regression with panel data.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Thank you.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Ekrem Kalkan
> >> >> >>> Turkish Competition Authority.
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